Monday, May 10, 2010 12:28pm PDT

Gray whale off Israel called 'most amazing sighting in history of whales'

By: Pete Thomas, GrindTV.com

The discovery Saturday of a gray whale swimming in the Mediterranean Sea off Israel has been labeled by Robert Brownell, a prominent cetacean researcher, "the most amazing sighting in the history of whales."

Alisa Schulman-Janiger, who runs a gray whale census and behavior project in Southern California for the American Cetacean Society, said the sighting was "the equivalent "of finding a dinosaur in your backyard--it was that unbelievable."

To be sure, scientists are perplexed as to how the gray whale might have traveled from the Pacific to the North Atlantic--the most likely entry point to the Mediterranean--where the species is believed to have been extinct for about 300 years.

Among questions being asked is whether--if other gray whales also have gained or will in the coming years gain access to the Atlantic--this could mark the beginning of a re-population effort by a species not encountered in the region since the late 17th or early 18th centuries.

Brownell, who works for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, believes it could if the consensus among scientists is accurate that a diminished ice cover in recent years in the Arctic region, where the eastern North Pacific stock of gray whales feeds during the summer, has provided pathways to the Atlantic.

"We've had other strange sightings, like narwhals from the U.K. or Japan, but those are still within the same ocean basin that they're known to occur in," Brownell said of Saturday's sighting. "So they're unusual but not as unusual as something showing where it had once gone extinct."

The 40-foot whale was spotted more than a mile beyond Israel's Herzliya Marina, close to Tel Aviv, and followed and photographed for two hours by scientists from the Israel Marine Mammal Research & Assistance Center. They initially assumed it was a sperm whale because, like gray whales, it lacked a dorsal fin. But the mammal was later positively identified as a gray whale.

While the news has not yet been widely reported, it has generated a buzz of excitement among scientists and conservation groups.

Erich Hoyt of the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society blogged on Monday: "Discounting the possibility of the Panama or Suez canals, I suggest that the Northwest Passage is the most likely entry route. In August, 2007, it was announced that the Northwest Passage was nearly ice-free for the first time and these conditions continued into the summer of 2008."

To be sure, gray whales could not have survived in the North Atlantic unnoticed for 300 years, so it's universally agreed that this particular whale hails from the eastern North Pacific stock--the only viable population of gray whales, numbering about 19,000 animals.

These whales are renowned travelers; they feed during the summer in the Bering and Chukchi seas, and migrate each winter more than 5,000 miles to mating and calving grounds off Baja California, Mexico.

To reach the Atlantic by means other than an Arctic route, they'd have to either swim through the Panama Canal or continue another 8,000 miles to the south and round Cape Horn at the bottom of South America.

Scientists have discounted both possibilities. That leaves the Arctic route, either an easterly Northwest Passage journey across the top of North America, or a much longer westerly voyage across the top of Russia.

Brownell agrees the former journey represents the most likely scenario and adds that gray whales in the Atlantic might have historically come from the Pacific stock.

Historically there were three distinct populations of gray whales--the eastern North Pacific stock; the North Atlantic stock, and the Korean or western Pacific stock.

The western Pacific stock is critically endangered and might number fewer than 100 animals.

The North Atlantic population probably became extinct in large part because of hunting during the whaling era. Fossil records have shown that gray whales utilized both sides of the Atlantic. They probably shared a common northern feeding ground and fossils have been found as far south as Florida.

It is not known what the whale was doing in the Mediterranean, when it entered the Atlantic or whether it was the only gray whale to have strayed into that ocean. But from now on, scientists will be on the look out for more of the same species.

--Copyrighted images of gray whale spotted Saturday off Israel courtesy of Israel Marine Mammal Research & Assistance Center

 

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Posted by ScubaNymph May 11, 2010 11:03am PDTReply | Report Abuse

Unbelievable. I hope the Israel Marine Mammal Research & Assistance Center was quick enough to get a tag on this whale so they can see where he goes from here.

Reply by steven lugo May 11, 2010 05:10pm PDTReport Abuse

Yes. Im sure they did hopefully!

Reply by deepscanner101 May 11, 2010 11:34pm PDTReport Abuse

I'm certain marine scientists along the west coast could ID this particular whale if it were part of the migrating pack between Baja and the Alaskan waters. Each whale has it's own markings for easy identification. There is a library of whale photos showing the fluke marking and a name to go with each. They used to be known as "devil fish" for their protection personality concerning their young. They will dive to the floor, scoop up sediment, and filter out food along with the classic filter feeder traits as characterized by other baleen cetacians.

Reply by deepscanner101 May 11, 2010 11:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Say ScubaNymph, are you a full time resident of Catalina and if so have you ever seen anything "unusual" off the coast of your island i.e. something which cannot be rationally explained?

Reply by deepscanner101 May 11, 2010 11:46pm PDTReport Abuse

Would you be interested in a series of photos I took off a web cam of Loch Ness of an unknown biological? Very interesting indeed.

Reply by digmatology May 12, 2010 03:59am PDTReport Abuse

If your response to every thing you see is to run out and Staple a tag on it, then I hope never to swim past your house.

Why is it that all you so called environmentalist / save the world people always think you have the right to run around stapling fish and animals with Tags. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

What if the Tags and effecting the mating of the animals, the mating is subject to natural selection is it not. Perhaps the reason so many species are in trouble is because of you jerking them out of there habitat, stapling them with at tag that makes it more difficult to find a mate.

I mean if aliens started tagging the people they abducted with non-removable numbered tags, don' t you think it would affect your sex life, for better or worse. I mean you'd have to have a special dating service just to find a date with that numbered tag hanging from your rectum.

I know your going to say it is for the greater good, really? Some how I think if the whale would argue.

Reply by immortalborn May 12, 2010 08:20am PDTReport Abuse

I agree with many of your points. And it is possible to track the whale without tags. It just takes time and manpower. But in my opinion we (humans) should just leave the population alone. Most of the disasters in the whale population is because we interfered in the first place. I'm fairly certain that nature can take care of itself without our meddling.

Reply by greg jayson May 12, 2010 09:16am PDTReport Abuse

I pray to God the whale IS NOT Palestinian. If so, he will be denied basic access to food, health care, shot in the head with a rubber pellet, or get evicted from the Mediterranean.

Reply by anewton May 12, 2010 09:37am PDTReport Abuse

Actually the Israelis have a history of extreme kindness to animals. The Palestinians on the other hand would have no problem killing the whale if they thought the Israelis were getting credit for anything positive. Just as they have had no problem burning down forests replanted by Israel after centuries of neglect. You are seemingly influenced by billions spent by oil interests thru PR firms to attack Israel's image. Anytime any Arab country has offered peace, Israel has leapt at the chance. More often than not though Palestinians are shelling and kidnapping and murdering Israelis. When Israel defends themselves they are attacked by folks like you.

Reply by drpsik May 12, 2010 09:44am PDTReport Abuse

I think you are nothing but an arogant and foolish person....learn more about the world before making such a claim. It's a misforture for the plestinian that their land were taken by the invaders, disfranchised them from every opportunity should of have, Forced them to cling on to their Islamic Bible, and now people like yourself, who look down on them without knowing the history.

Posted by jewel May 11, 2010 03:12pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Off the coast of Israel? It's the whale that swallowed Jonah and has returned for more prophet! LOL!

Posted by mehawkeyeone May 11, 2010 03:21pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Better get a American or Israeli Flag up on that Whale or the Israelies might think its a Iranian Sub. See (USS Liberty)!

Posted by captaink May 11, 2010 03:26pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

If the high paid experts say this whale is extinct, someone had better hunt it down and kill it to save them from further embarassment; remember they are the experts!!!!!

Reply by jennifer kelly May 11, 2010 03:37pm PDTReport Abuse

obviously they are not embarrassed, they are excited! Not everyone finds shame in being wrong, especially since this creature lives in the OCEAN, the most unexplored frontier on earth.

Reply by dushinoc May 11, 2010 04:13pm PDTReport Abuse

unlike you, many of these brilliant scientists have the backbone to admit they were wrong. anyway, what's "wrong" about logically deducting the extinction of a species, only to be disproved by the great versatility and resiliency of mother nature??

Reply by maxgates May 11, 2010 05:54pm PDTReport Abuse

That would make a good movie though.

Reply by kawligasdad May 11, 2010 06:17pm PDTReport Abuse

The Scientists are not ashamed to admit they are wrong? What a delusional world you must live in if this were true then they would have admitted that Global Warming is a Myth.. We all would be hard pressed to find any Global warming Freak to have the backbone to admit that they are wrong and that the Earth is going through a natural cycle.. That's because they will lose their lucrative Grants if they spoke the truth..

Reply by briggottjr May 11, 2010 07:39pm PDTReport Abuse

Is anyone as sick of hearing about the "Global Warming Myth" as I am. Why is it that every idiot who disagrees with science theory has the ability to cite information that backs THEIR theory. Global Warming, concocted by scientists in collusion with the worlds developed nations to make money. By the way kawligasdad, how many wealthy Research Scientists do you know? Probably nowhere near the number of gross polluters.

Reply by countzero May 11, 2010 08:26pm PDTReport Abuse

kawligasdad.......you are truely special

this article is about grey whales using the ice "free" northern passage to travel from the pacific to the atlantic for the first time in hundreds of yrs. can you guess why the whales did not do this in the past? because ice blocked the passage all year around. so in an article about whales being able to travel to new places due to global warming reducing the northern ice cap, you comment that global warming is a myth.

Reply by pinc May 11, 2010 08:47pm PDTReport Abuse

Who says global warming is a myth? (thought the pc term was now 'global climate change', anyway). The MYTH is that it is man-made, and can be reversed by man. The travesty lies in the fact that it is big business, and politically correct to believe this is so. Anyone who states otherwise becomes a pariah. The reality is that the earth goes through cyclical changes. If the scientists knew gray whales existed elsewhere, why even call them extinct? Why not just say that their migratory patterns changed 300 years ago when the earth went through cyclical global cooling?

Reply by gary kendall May 12, 2010 12:29am PDTReport Abuse

Maybe it has been a while since I was 'educated', but shouldn't the term these 'scientists' are using be "Extirpated"? I think a lot of these so called experts have lost sight of the fact that once an animal is extinct it is no more. Gone. It can't come back. Maybe I'm cynical as well, but I believe the reasoning behind this "oversight" is because it is easier to get funding for a project when you start floating around phrases like "extinct from a region" than it is to say "extirpated from an area". Something else about this article bothers me just a bit. It's nice to see these researchers get excited about the discovery of an animal in area that was thought to be without, but aren't these the same researchers, experts if you will, that condescend us at every turn if their "science" is questioned? It is simply arrogant for these, or any scientists, to confirm or deny the presence of any animal in an ocean so vast, yet they do it all the time. They are quick to take credit for a "discovery?", and just as quick to point the finger of indignation at the people who question them or their methods.

Reply by josh sparrow May 12, 2010 12:53am PDTReport Abuse

I say ill take the middle route. Global warming is true but its not just man made its also natural. Lets say its is still the earth warming from the last ice age, but it is being increased by man made greenhouse gases and the destruction of the ozone layers. That way everyones happy, no one is wrong and everyones right. Sound good? On the note of the whale, i hope theres more cause it would be nice to see them start to reintroduce themselves without our help. Like Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park "nature finds a way"

Reply by cassie b May 17, 2010 05:36pm PDTReport Abuse

For those of you who are criticising these scientists for getting the "extinction" wrong, if you read the article properly, it says that these whales were BELIEVED to be extinct in THIS AREA for the past 300 years, due to the fact that ice cover blocked their migration to said area. When it appears that an organism no longer exists, that is when it is labled 'extinct.' If it is then re-discovered, it is no longer extinct. Scientists weren't wrong...they just made a conclusion based on the fact that none of the species could be found at the time. That's what science does - uses facts and observations to make conclusions. And they aren't afraid to change their conclusions if the facts and observations change. Most scientists that work in less optimistic areas such as climate change and low-population organisms are THRILLED to admit that their conclusions changed. As for the climate change debate - i know some great real estate on the coasts of some small islands in the Pacific that are sinking due to rising sea levels for those of you who don't "believe" in it.

Posted by ffff44 May 11, 2010 03:29pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

God dang i can just see one at Sea World......... not that impressive

Reply by jennifer kelly May 11, 2010 03:38pm PDTReport Abuse

uh no. you cannot see a gray whale at Sea World...did you not read the article?

Reply by robert sinclair May 11, 2010 03:52pm PDTReport Abuse

Grey whales do not live in captivity and they have been extinct in the Atlantic Ocean for 300 years.

Reply by jane doe May 12, 2010 10:19am PDTReport Abuse

Obviously they aren't extinct because there is a picture of it right there. Second of all, they have to have a mother and father and there is no way they are 300 years old. So again, obviously they aren't extinct.

Reply by maggie chacin May 12, 2010 12:45pm PDTReport Abuse

wow @jane doe it was only extinct in that particular ocean..READ

Posted by jeff siegel May 11, 2010 03:39pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

hopefully the whales will be next in line to rule the water covered earth when we humans are finally extinct. which wont be soon enough.

Reply by mark bogard May 11, 2010 04:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Feel free to go first.

Reply by mr philips May 12, 2010 01:47am PDTReport Abuse

After you mark.

Reply by immortalborn May 12, 2010 08:24am PDTReport Abuse

Certainly whales would be anong the top of the marine life, but have you considered that the salt levels in the oceans would drop dramaticly if the earth was covered in water. Most of the oceanic wildlife would die first because of it.

Reply by stellamojo May 12, 2010 09:24am PDTReport Abuse

OH, like "feel free to go first" has NEVER been said in regards to someone talking about the extinction of the human race. OH NO, that was SO clever and unique, mark bogard. The extinction of the human race appears to be a given, and anyone thinking that extinction only applies to "lesser" lifeforms obviously knows nothing of biology.

Posted by bob121212 May 11, 2010 03:39pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Great my lamp is almost out of oil.

Reply by jonathan avezbaki May 11, 2010 06:00pm PDTReport Abuse

Ikr? How else am i supposed to burn morons like you?

Reply by mr philips May 12, 2010 01:48am PDTReport Abuse

You're human fat will burn very well, especially after you've been harpooned in front of your family,

Posted by sweetpea1979 May 11, 2010 03:44pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

sighting like these worry me. there is a reason that you never see a gray whale here or there. while its great to see something like this, you go to wonder what event caused this animal to go somewhere its not normally see at.

Reply by robert sinclair May 11, 2010 03:53pm PDTReport Abuse

The north pole has melted and the whales can now get though the north west passage.

Reply by anogueras1 May 11, 2010 10:38pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree this is not natural. Im worried for that whale. How is it going to get back to the rest of its kind. Will It be hunted? Will it wind up dead on a beach because it cant get proper nurishment? Will it ever be able to reproduce and help keep it's kind from extinction? Are the waters over their to warm for it?

Reply by josh sparrow May 12, 2010 12:58am PDTReport Abuse

they were there in the past and the only reason their not there now is because the were hunted to extinction. so except for possibly being the only one it should be fine. and on the note of the waters being to warm they calve off the coast of southern Cali and Mexico so that's not a problem.

Posted by maddiguanna May 11, 2010 03:56pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

He's looking for Jonah!!!!

Posted by dushinoc May 11, 2010 04:14pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Israel takes care of its surrounding marine life

Reply by greg jayson May 12, 2010 09:17am PDTReport Abuse

I pray to God the whale IS NOT Palestinian. If so, he will be denied basic access to food, health care, shot in the head with a rubber pellet, or get evicted from the Mediterranean.

Reply by drpsik May 12, 2010 09:47am PDTReport Abuse

I think you are nothing but an arogant and foolish person....learn more about the world before making such a claim. It's a misforture for the plestinian that their land were taken by the invaders, disfranchised them from every opportunity should of have, Forced them to cling on to their Islamic Bible, and now people like yourself, who look down on them without knowing the history. such a religious looser!!!!

Posted by robert polomis May 11, 2010 04:15pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Confucius say....this is a warning sign for another natural disastrous event.. my guess is it will rain tomorrow

Posted by digmatology May 11, 2010 04:40pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Hey Scientist, if your still wondering how it got there my money is on Swam.

You can't say the Grey whales are extinct if they live somewhere else, that would be like saying that Canadian Geese go extinct every winter in canada

Reply by mark bogard May 11, 2010 04:52pm PDTReport Abuse

They said, quite correctly, that the Greys had been extinct from the Med for 300 years and had confined themselves to the Pacific, not that they were extinct from the planet. Your comparison with Canadian geese is unrealistic and has nothing to do with the Greys.

Reply by jkkjgkkjjgk May 11, 2010 06:33pm PDTReport Abuse

The word is 'extirpated'. Look it up. Plus, they are 'Canada Geese'.

Reply by mark bogard May 12, 2010 12:08am PDTReport Abuse

Yes, "extirpated" is the correct term for this situation. However, the word used in this article is "extinct" so that's what we're working with. Feel free to contact the author of the article and demand they change it to suit you.

Actually, they are "Branta canadensis", known by various common names including "Canadian Geese", "Canada Geese", "lunch", and "dinner". Common names are merely regional monikers given to identify an animal (or plant, etc) and frequently differ from one area to another. Only the Latin name is proper and unchanging.

See ya.

Reply by digmatology May 12, 2010 03:00am PDTReport Abuse

The point is that Grey Whales are not extinct, and that "Branta canadensis" are in fact know by the common name of Canadian Geese. Which would make me correct on both points.

The definition of extinct is : no longer existing

The definition of extirpated : is to pull up by the roots; root out. or to destroy or remove completely; exterminate; abolish.

So extirpated according to yourdictionary.c~o~m is not the correct word either, which leaves me to wonder, what exactly is the correct word. I would venture to guess but seeing how the supposed disappearance of grey whale from the Atlantic occurred long before (300 years ago) anyone was tracking the movements and populations of whale, it would be irresponsible to even guess what happened to Atlantic grey whales.

In fact there are no know records of anyone ever seeing a living Atlantic Grey Whale and the only proof that we have that they ever existed is Fossils. So for anyone to say that the Atlantic grey whale was extirpated is also irresponsible, they may have moved. Jumping to any conclusion as to the fate of the Atlantic Grey Whale would require either a huge guess or even worst bias.

Barring the invention of a time machine we may never know what happened to the Atlantic grey whale population, it is possible they simply moved to the pacific. because all the jobs in the Atlantic where getting outsourced.

Posted by dave_total May 11, 2010 05:08pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Panama Canal was that seriously even considered? Do whales actually wait for the locks to open to pass thru? What?

Reply by mark bogard May 12, 2010 12:09am PDTReport Abuse

Yes. But they must have the proper permits and pay a fee like anyone else.

Posted by angell May 11, 2010 05:22pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

b4 we jump to conclusions...science is so far behind..the whale was probably chased by a whaler and became confused..he's probably disoriented with fear...since when do whales swim alone?

Reply by browneadam May 12, 2010 11:56am PDTReport Abuse

all the time depending on what kind of whale

Posted by kerry_b80 May 11, 2010 05:59pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I never heard about the sea of israel! Did they occupy the sea too? I used to live in the Mediterranean sea. This people are amazing. Why don't they call it the israel whale? or the israel air?

Reply by sabrinasmom May 12, 2010 02:41pm PDTReport Abuse

I believe the article referenced the Mediterranean Sea "OFF" Israel, not "OF" Israel.

Reply by kerry_b80 May 12, 2010 02:46pm PDTReport Abuse

OOH, that makes sense then. Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by mr suits May 11, 2010 06:32pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

GREAT...I hope the Japanese don't read this, they will be on the way to harvest it for research :(

Posted by katie m lovering May 11, 2010 08:12pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

A whale going through the Panama Canal? Oh come on, how would they know how to use it?

Posted by gumby May 11, 2010 08:45pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

And I thought Ted Kennedy was dead!

Posted by cesarla May 11, 2010 09:17pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

we have seen these whales here just on the coast, north of Chile southamerica, exactly between Antofagasta and Chañaral, far away from civilization. huge tail

Posted by dawenlui2 May 11, 2010 09:48pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

MMMMMMM......whale meat good.....tastes like chicken. Increased whale population means it will be easier to get whale sushi!! Yeah.

Reply by mr philips May 12, 2010 01:54am PDTReport Abuse

Get off the Earth, this planet has no use for you. People like you are the equivalent of parasites.

Reply by digmatology May 12, 2010 03:20am PDTReport Abuse

Since all life began in the sea, according to evolution, the whale would have come before the chicken. This would mean that chicken actually tastes like whale. Which makes me ask if anyone has considered commercial whale farming, the same way that they farm catfish, salmon or even Chicken.

You would definitely need a bigger pond.

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