Friday, June 11, 2010 11:42am PDT

Sailor Abby Sunderland awaits rescue as questions arise about journey

By: Pete Thomas, GrindTV.com

*Updated in second paragraph to reflect that rescue boat is scheduled to be at sailor's position several hours past the original planned arrival time of midnight (PDT) Friday, because of rough weather.

One more day....

Help is due to reach embattled sailor Abby Sunderland, in the form of a French fishing boat named Ile De La Reunion, Saturday morning or early afternoon (PDT).

The 16-year-old adventurer, who had not been heard from for 20 hours after activating her emergency satellite beacons, but was found to be safe late Thursday night aboard her de-masted vessel, is not out of danger yet.

Sunderland had hoped to become the youngest person to sail around the world alone.

The crew aboard an Australian spotter plane that located her 40-foot cruising sled, Wild Eyes, as it floundered in the southern Indian Ocean, was at the limit of its range and had to turn back, leaving the rescue to the French fishermen, who were nearest her position.

The winds remain strong and the seas are still rough -- though not nearly as rough as they had been.

If seas remain rough -- there were 30-foot seas Friday, according to satellite reports -- when the fishing vessel arrives, the pickup could be tricky. The two-day trip to the French-controlled Reunion Island -- if that is, in fact, where the boat will be headed; it's still unclear -- will be bumpy but the fishing boat is more than 100 feet long and designed for big seas.

The Quantas Airbus A330 was sent merely to find Wild Eyes, assess its condition, and to try to make contact with the sailor via VHF radio. According to FESA leader Will Blackshaw, who's quoted on Abby's Blog, the crew spotted the boat after ten minutes of circling the area. They found it upright with Abby on the deck, but had to keep communication brief.

Her first words were, "This is Abby."

She told the airplane crew that she was fine and unharmed. Her parents and six brothers and sisters, along with the family's pastor and close friends, breathed a collective sigh of relief after receiving the news late Thursday night. Reports are Abby was instructed by the crew to activate two further EPIRB devices late Friday afternoon to ensure a continuous signal.

Wild Eyes presumably rolled and lost its mast not long after Abby lost satellite phone contact with her parents on Wednesday.

Less than an hour after the call dropped -- she had previously lost her Internet connection -- the U.S. Coast Guard called the Sunderlands at their home in Thousand Oaks, Calif., to notify them that two emergency beacons had been activated.

Now that she has been found and seemingly will make it home safely, the wisdom of her journey has come into question.

Age will become an issue, but what happened to Sunderland -- she endured waves to 50 feet and wind speeds perhaps in excess of 65 mph -- could have happened and has happened to older and more seasoned sailors in similar circumstances.

Before her vessel was disabled, Sunderland endured days of strong winds and multiple "knockdowns," causing the mast or its spreaders to hit water.

"That very well could have happened to anyone," said Charlie Nobles, executive director of the American Sailing Assn. "As far as the specific things that led to it and any decisions, yes, that could play some role in it.

"But it's pretty hard for the boat to be completely de-masted unless it's something pretty horrendous -- the waves and the weather and the repeated poundings and the knockdowns... because even carbon-fiber and steel can only take so much after a point."

Nobles added that Sunderland acted properly by activating the emergency beacons immediately after losing her mast. "That was the mature and right decision to make and I think that given what Mother Nature has dealt her, she's handled it very well from everything I've seen."

Of the age issue Laurence Sunderland, Abby's father has repeatedly dismissed criticism from others who don't know Abby or care that she has a dream or that she has an extensive sailing background.

"A lot of kids these days are whittling away aimless hours on computer games, videos and computers and I know it's not doing them a lot of good," Laurence said at the outset of Abby's trip. "It's not creative and it has shut down their senses. I think those things are a cancer on society and they have helped lead to the obesity problem kids today face."

But should Abby have been so low in the Indian Ocean, along the 40-degree latitude known for good reason as the "Roaring Forties," at this time of year, with the stormy Southern Hemisphere winter so close at hand?

She chose the route partly to steer clear of pirates farther north in the Indian Ocean, and she originally hoped to embark from Marina del Rey at least two months before she finally left on Jan. 23. Boat issues were the cause of the delays.

Laurence Sunderland, who is a shipwright, said in the weeks before her departure: "I've told Abigail, 'You will see 60 knots of wind down there, probably on more than one occasion.' "

Laurence added: "I have no doubt in my mind that this boat is going to get totally knocked around down there."

Australia's Ian Kiernan, who has sailed around the world, told Sky News television on Friday that even if Abby had made it safely through the latest storm, she "would be going through a very difficult time with mountainous seas and essentially hurricane-force winds."

Legendary Australian sailor and adventurer Don McIntyre, in an interview as Abby was preparing to round Cape Horn, predicted: "I think the biggest question mark will not be the Horn. It will be the Indian Ocean and under Australia. It can be worse there, especially late in the season.

"This will be Abby's biggest challenge. Her weather router will be critical, and while her boat is able to sail fast to position for better weather, it can only do that if the skipper and equipment are working. An electrical problem, concerns for the rig, etc., can turn everything upside down in an instant."

Pat Henry, a female sailor who has logged a successful circumnavigation of the planet, said this week: "To some extent I concur on the timing issue, but these conditions can happen even in the 'right' season."

Henry, an artist living in Puerto Vallarta, said she endured similar conditions in November -- the warm season -- in the South Pacific between Bora Bora and Rarotonga.

"Perhaps she could have chosen to sit out the winter in South Africa [Abby was forced to make repairs in Cape Town], once the non-stop status was lost. But that would have been a tough decision. Once she committed herself to the project, I'm sure she still wanted to come as close as she could to her goal."

Australia's Jessica Watson, who completed a much-celebrated solo-circumnavigation last month, just days before her 17th birthday, left three months before Sunderland at what is considered the ideal time for a Southern Ocean sail.

Even so, she endured 70-knot winds and multiple knockdowns on at least two occasions.

Unfortunately for Abby, she got caught in an area where a warm mass of air collided with the colder unsettled weather and the result was a supercharged storm with sustained winds of 45-60 knots, with much stronger gusts, and with seas as high as 50 feet.

That is what brought an abrupt and dramatic end to her odyssey. Knowing Abby, though, she will try once more, at some point in her life, to either complete this voyage on a different boat or start again from scratch.

-- Top Image of Abby Sunderland courtesy of 2010 Lisa Gizara/GizaraArts.Com
-- Bottom photo of Abby adrift from the Australian search crew which flew over Friday morning.

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carol e donaldson

Posted by carol e donaldson June 11, 2010 12:13pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

If she were my child, I'd say "let's get the ship home and work on it and if you want to solo around the world at a later date, knowing there's no "youngest" or other "title" to attempt, I'll support you 100%. If you and your brother want to sail around the world in an attempt to beat any speed record, I'd support that 100%, too."

When she writes her book, I'll be one of the first to purchase it.

Great attempt, Abby. Glad you're safe.

jimy0panda

Reply by jimy0panda June 11, 2010 12:37pm PDTReport Abuse

I completely agree. Especially since I know there is no way that I would be able to do that even if it were the 'right' conditions.

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:10pm PDTReport Abuse

I applaud her efforts. We really could use brave people at this time. Hope we may get her little help somehow in the oil spill that's affecting the environment and livelihood in southern U.S.A.?

lysetteasen

Reply by lysetteasen June 11, 2010 02:37pm PDTReport Abuse

Congrats to her...poor parents who will surely face hell in the coming months. They looked for it though...

captaincameron

Reply by captaincameron June 11, 2010 02:47pm PDTReport Abuse

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the harbour, catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore, Dream, Discover". -- Mark Twain, Author
There are those that know, and those that don't. Good job Abby
Captain Cameron

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 02:51pm PDTReport Abuse

@carol e donaldson You, and others like you (including her parents) don't consider the human cost and risk to others. Instead, you feel entitled to do as you please and live in the fanstacy that heroics are simply there for the taking - even for children - because others will always be there to help and clean up the mess. Unconcerned with the lives of rescuers (who are themselves the true heroes in this story) who have no choice but to lay their life on the line, you are already thinking ahead to the book-deal and the money to made of telling this tale. No doubt you would want to spread the proceeds around to cover the relatively modest costs of this rescue (running into hundreds of thousands of dollars) including a little something for the families of those who put their lives on the line to save a teenaged girl (she is 16) because her parents failed her. Let me ask you, what would your position be if say, the rescue plane that spotted her crashed at sea. Would it be of compassion for those truly heroic rescuers or perhaps stay firmly focused on your fairy tale princess and her book deal?

brooks smith

Reply by brooks smith June 11, 2010 03:02pm PDTReport Abuse

Hear, Hear! Well said

jmse

Reply by jmse June 11, 2010 03:04pm PDTReport Abuse

Her parents put her at risk. They put anyone who would try to rescue her at risk. They simply did not care about anyone but themselves. Horrible parenting.

jmse

Reply by jmse June 11, 2010 03:05pm PDTReport Abuse

Very well said, beeceesp!!

krautdog

Reply by krautdog June 11, 2010 03:12pm PDTReport Abuse

absolutely! ...and let us not forget the poor parenting of the rescue workers! How they must have failed their children to have raised young adults with such heroics in them they pursued so dangerous of a profession....for shame!!!!

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 03:13pm PDTReport Abuse

@beeceesp, so according to you, nobody should ever do anything risky at all because it could potentially be a burden on somebody else if something goes wrong? If it were up to you, all humans would still be living in a single village (or more likely extinct).

Do you say this to everybody that ever gets on a boat, or goes hiking in the mountains, or goes scuba diving or snorkeling, or skiing, or driving in their car, or flying in an airplane, or even walking down the street? I mean.. if you walk down the street, you could get kidnapped, and put some cops life at risk trying to rescue you, right?

jbrbro

Reply by jbrbro June 11, 2010 03:20pm PDTReport Abuse

@Beeceesp Just because you are incapable(or afraid?) of doing something more complicated then driving your car to the mall doesn't mean someone else can't do what they dream. We put far to much weight on a chronological age in this country: Oh no you can't drink alchohol or buy a handgun but you can vote on who runs the country and risk maiming or death in military service to your country. Or better yet get a driver's liscense at 16 and when you squash some kid in the crosswalk you are too young to be punished the same as someone who is 18. As far as the "rescuers" being forced to go out and risk themselves? It's their choice to do that and they do the same job for EVERYONE that needs them no matter their age or why they are out there. If you have a problem at sea even one of your own making they will come for you and put themselves at risk. If you think someone soloing at 16 is so much more likely to be in danger then a moron of 30 you really are oblivious.

Thank you Krippy well said.

krautdog

Reply by krautdog June 11, 2010 03:23pm PDTReport Abuse

@krippy2k...I would never leave the house without government protection, of course. ...not drive without seatbelts...watch TV without warning...not eat without educating myself on the nutritional impact....OH MY, my heart just races with fear!!!!

How dare you imply that we can survive on our own? With what knowledge, instinct, passion, general understanding are we equipped with to afford us the right to do anything without public opinion/approval.

Where are you from? Alaska?

krautdog

Reply by krautdog June 11, 2010 03:27pm PDTReport Abuse

btw...ROCK ON ABBY! You've given me hope that the new generation has not been lost on growing world of socialistic mamby-pambies!!

tfo

Reply by tfo June 11, 2010 03:28pm PDTReport Abuse

kippy krippy little boy, you're as much an idiot as this girl and her parents. Her parents should be jailed for endangering minors, parents are convicted for doing far less to potentially harm their children. They want fame, they are like baloon dad. If her dream is to sail around the world, why does she have to be "the youngest?" Why not do it a few years from now? Because she and her jerky parents want "the record" They are like beauty contestant parents and all the other parents who don't let their kids grow up. Can you say Joe Jackson? They worry about computer games? I worry about them putting their daughter and innocent strangers at risk so they can be in a recordr book. Disgusting. Frankly her parents are assholes.
And you my stupid kippy. Do you really think walking down the street poses the same risk as sailing around the world. Apparently you do, which says everything we need to know about you and your argument. Go back under your rock. and krautdog (what are you a Nazi?) you think your sarcasim is intelligent? It isn't. Hey idiot, she put others at risk too and that's the issue. Where are you from a miliita in Michigan?

lindsay shappell

Reply by lindsay shappell June 11, 2010 03:30pm PDTReport Abuse

Krautdog-- SO let me get this right. Not only are you insulting the parents but the Rescue workers as well?? What is the matter with you? THE RESCUE WORKER!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?! They are bad parents for entering the profession? So does that mean that our brave soldiers are bad parents because of the profession they enter into before and after they become parents. Are you aware that airplane pilots can die during their jobs and they have children. What about taxi drivers? They can die during their profession. Does that make them bad parents as well?

People most often chose a profession from passion. We don't award our soldiers with the medal of honor and then tell them we are removing their children from their homes on account of bad parents. COME ON!!!!
You are insane and should stop talking now...
I think the sunderlands are brave people. I think this girl is the bravest of all. She did what most of you will never do. She got off her butt and pursued her dream and KUDOS to her.. I hope that when she gets home she can fix her boat and try again someday because if she doesn't do it this time she will do it another time.
These parents taught their children to follow their dream and they did. again KUDOS to them. What can your child do? Make it to level 27 on some video game? Give them a medal. And when they are still living with you at the age of 40 you will know what YOU DID WRONG!!!

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 03:33pm PDTReport Abuse

@beeceesp - totally right on!

and to those of your that twist things to say that nobody should do it - You show your ignorance of the real issue here! She is 16 and alone! Sailing the ocean alone just for kicks is irresponsible -

amfebruary

Reply by amfebruary June 11, 2010 03:33pm PDTReport Abuse

I would rather have a few minutes of greatness than a whole life of nothing at all! Life is too short to worry about every little thing. And like some of you mentioned (and made a good point), the rescue workers chose that profession. I'm sure they don't wake up in the mornings or nights and say "oh crap, i can't believe i have to put myself in danger for someone else!". Seriously, there are amazing people out there who do amazing things...like rescues. Just like there are amazing people who do amazing things...like sail around the world. Good job to all!

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 03:35pm PDTReport Abuse

@tfo, did I say "the same risk"? No. But it poses a risk nonetheless. Do you have a chart that indicates which levels of risk are acceptable and which are not?

And what difference would waiting a few years make? Would the ocean become more forgiving and calmer for her, or would her boat be stronger, because she turned 18? If her mast broke off when she was 18, would these rescue workers then not risk their lives to go find her, or would their risk be less?

ttavelli

Reply by ttavelli June 11, 2010 03:36pm PDTReport Abuse

Yes Abby as far as I am concerned you are amazing you accomplished something not but maybe 20 people out of 7 billion on the earth have ever thought they could do. I would sail with you anyday as my captain!

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 03:37pm PDTReport Abuse

I really wonder what everyones thoughts would be if this didnt turn out good (and it still hasnt). Would everyone be praising her bravery and her parents for their support? I serioiusly doubt it. And what if others die in the rescue attempt - will you all still shout her glorious praises?

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 03:39pm PDTReport Abuse

And ttavelli.... your a 46 yr old male that wants to be alone in the ocean with a 16 yr old female... uh huh... right! Your captain my ass.

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 03:40pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63... yes and yes. Whether she lives or dies, her parents allowed her the freedom to go after her dream, without coddling her like a fragile piece of china. If others die in the rescue attempt, I will still feel the same about her and her parents, and the same about the rescuers. She would have died doing what she loves to do, and they would have died doing what they love to do. If I'm going to die, I'd want it to be doing what I love to do too.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 03:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Well krippy2k-

Must be nice to live your life with so little regard for human life.

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 03:44pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63... I have plenty of regard for human life. I just also happen to have plenty of regard for people living their lives the way they want to live them.

What's the point of life, if you're going to be too afraid to do anything with it?

marcrag

Reply by marcrag June 11, 2010 03:44pm PDTReport Abuse

Carol, that is probably what her handlers are hoping for. That people will rush to buy her book. If and when that happens, I hope the income will go to re-pay the expenses involved in her rescue. Still, I am glad she is alive. If she has to pursue her dreams again, she should get an advance from a publisher including insurance to pay for rescue efforts in case things go wrong again.

kmd615

Reply by kmd615 June 11, 2010 03:51pm PDTReport Abuse

Why is everyone so worked up? No one is being forced to do anything here, it's obviously your choice whether or not you let your child sail around the world. America is about freedom of choice. Yes, rescuers went to look for her. That is their voluntary job. Keyword = voluntary. They are brave individuals who chose a profession in which they get to HELP others in distress, regardless of why they need help.

Nobody here knows this family personally, so it's completely inappropriate to say they are after fame and money. All the posts that are turning this into a controversial issue are what MAKE the fame and money, not the girl who was trying to accomplish a personal goal.

So the bottom line is - whether you think it was right or wrong, IT DOESN'T MATTER. It's not your daughter, your family, or your choice. Read your news articles to learn about current events, not to try and control how other families and people live their lives.

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 03:55pm PDTReport Abuse

krippy2k jbrbro and krautdog I think I was fairly clear, that allowing a teenaged girl to head off into the World's open Oceans by herself (a decision seemingly based an ill-conceived notion that "with her vast experience - she'll be just fine" ) doesn't consider the human cost. Now, if you're wrong, your 16 year old daughter dies. And if your right, she wins a medal. And guess what Mom and Dad were wrong. She very nearly met her maker, years too soon! If I hold the idea of protecting your children, taking responsibility for your actions and considering the potential harm to others makes me a moron in your eyes - I'll just have to live with that.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 03:57pm PDTReport Abuse

Well Krippy-

Since you are so agreeable and supportive of this - Im sure you wont mind paying the bill. What? No? Hmm. It is all fine and good when you are not the one paying for this rescue - but what if instead of 'taxpayer' we just said krippy?

It is irresponsibility at is height!

trilliem

Reply by trilliem June 11, 2010 03:58pm PDTReport Abuse

@beeceesp "Unconcerned with the lives of rescuers (who are themselves the true heroes in this story) who have no choice but to lay their life on the line"
When you say the rescuers are heroes I completely agree. But to say that they have no choice but to lay their lives on the line for her is a not exactly true. Just like Abby chose to sail, they chose to save her. No one is holding a gun to their heads forcing them to help her.
Everyone helping out from the coast guard to the plane that flew out and the fishing boat that is going to her is in this on their own behalf. And these are not all professionals, lets not forget the boat going to pick her up is a fishing boat that volunteered to help because they happened to be close. WHY? Because they were out there already! Somewhere you say they would have to go to lay their lives on the line.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 03:58pm PDTReport Abuse

Well said beeceesp!

shell1205

Reply by shell1205 June 11, 2010 03:59pm PDTReport Abuse

This is what SEARCH AND RESCUE teams are for.

You nay-sayers are just a bunch of narrow-minded idiots. You may as well curse people who have had house-fires, for putting those FIREMEN in danger. "

Just shut up and get back to your cubicle where you belong.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:00pm PDTReport Abuse

trilliem - "lets not forget the boat going to pick her up is a fishing boat that volunteered to help because they happened to be close. " Close? are you freaking serious? TWO days to get to her- TWO DAYS - that is not close.

kmd615

Reply by kmd615 June 11, 2010 04:02pm PDTReport Abuse

That's funny - crying about the tax payer's bill. Forget the kids who hold up convenience stores, rob banks, assault people, run away from home, do drugs, join gangs, maybe even kill someone, and waste all kinds of our tax dollars on the police work they require. Forget all about them and act like this one little girl who actually needed legitimate help is the one who ran up our tax bill. Get over it, you are just fishing for things to complain about.

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 04:02pm PDTReport Abuse

@beeceesp... first of all, they were not wrong. She is going to be just fine. Her experience and her training taught her to do the right thing to keep her boat afloat and to activate her emergency beacons when something goes wrong. What would somebody with 40 more years of experience be doing?

Secondly, what you're saying now is not even close to what you were saying before. Your first post was entirely focused on her somehow putting the lives of rescue workers at risk, and not one word about protecting children.

Everybody wants to protect children. But protecting children by not letting them follow their dreams because somebody else will call you irresponsible is not the right way to protect them. You protect them by making sure that they have the proper training and equipment to give it a good shot.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:02pm PDTReport Abuse

shelf - you are the narrow minded idiot - and your right that is what they are for. So that said - why dont you go into your house - set it on fire - call 911 - then hit yourself over the head - cause after all - that is what they are for - JACKASS

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:06pm PDTReport Abuse

KMD - I really dont give a flip about the tax payer bill. My point was peoples attitudes about this whole thing would change if it directly affected them in a way that they would notice.

As regards your point about the criminal children - I totally agree! But did you known if your underage child causes harm to somebody's property or person that you as the parent are liable for any costs incurrred. That is a fact.

Same rule should apply here.

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 04:06pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63... I'm willing to bet that I pay more taxes than you do. AND I donate money every few months for volunteer firefighters, even though I have never once needed the services of a firefighter.

Should I go around asking everybody who has to be rescued from a burning house to pay me back?

krautdog

Reply by krautdog June 11, 2010 04:07pm PDTReport Abuse

@ lindsay shappell ...relax...my post was meant as pure sarcasm....I'm on your side! Honest!

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:08pm PDTReport Abuse

You can make any bet you want Krippy - but I SERIOUSLY doubt it is true.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:08pm PDTReport Abuse

AND - even if it were - has NOTHING to do with my point

kmd615

Reply by kmd615 June 11, 2010 04:09pm PDTReport Abuse

She didn't cause harm to anybody.

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 04:11pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63... well let me be more to the point. If you get back the money that I, and every other taxpayer, has paid for the Coast Guard already... then I will gladly pay for any cost incurred to rescue Abby.

trilliem

Reply by trilliem June 11, 2010 04:12pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63 "Close? are you freaking serious? TWO days to get to her- TWO DAYS - that is not close."
Yes. And it's not exactly two days more like just over one day. Oh yeah and lets not forget they are moveing in rough water so it might slow them down a bit more considering it's a larger boat.

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:13pm PDTReport Abuse

And let me make my point - Just because they are there - doesnt mean that there services should be free. This was a needless selfish immature adventure,

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 04:14pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63... why don't you let THEM decide if their services should be free or not? Are you their agent?

jondm63

Reply by jondm63 June 11, 2010 04:14pm PDTReport Abuse

The story broke yesterday morning - it will be midnight before they get there - that is 2 days! They were NOT close - go read the articles.

krautdog

Reply by krautdog June 11, 2010 04:15pm PDTReport Abuse

@tfo...Nazi? ha! no, just love krautdogs!!!! ...and no, I don't find my sarcasm intelligent. I intentionally kept it at this level so the likes of you could follow along.

pass the mustard, please.

jbrbro

Reply by jbrbro June 11, 2010 04:16pm PDTReport Abuse

And guess what Mom and Dad were wrong. She very nearly met her maker, years too soon! If I hold the idea of protecting your children, taking responsibility for your actions and considering the potential harm to others makes me a moron in your eyes - I'll just have to live with that.

They were wrong how? Because the freaking sea broke the boat? Yeah, that wouldn't happen in a few years time would it? Deal with the fact you are one of those people who make it nearly impossible for kids to do sports. BUT my baby might get a booboo so you have to require that everyone wears 20 pounds of protective gear that hinders their movement and reaction speed. Cripes I went of my bicycle as a kid dozens of times and so did my friends. sure there were one or two broken limbs and several fingers but one of my classmates in grade school fell of the monkey bars and broke his arm too. Seems like maybe people freak out a bit too much these days.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:16pm PDTReport Abuse

Krippy2k..... pretty obvious isn't it.

The nay-sayers, are just grabbing at anything they can to whine about someone doing something they can not. Parents, age, money....

I have only found a few who actually admit their motive is out of jealousy.

jbrbro

Reply by jbrbro June 11, 2010 04:18pm PDTReport Abuse

Sorry forgot the quotes on the first half of that was by Beeceesp

jbrbro

Reply by jbrbro June 11, 2010 04:19pm PDTReport Abuse

Cybor I think you just won the Internet.

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 04:20pm PDTReport Abuse

kmd615 Unfortunately your world view (and poor understanding of Freedom versus freedom of choice) doesn't correspond with your obligation to obey the laws of this country including endangerment of children. And since you endorse reading news articles to learn about current events, may I suggest you take your own advice - I think you have a lot of catching up to do. You might want to start with the track record (history) of this family and its quest for medals, world records and fame. By the way, I have no problem with that. Using your children to do does trouble me. You might also want to read articles by more experienced sailors who are politely pointing out the lunacy of sailing in these particular Oceans at this time of year. And if you have the time you may also wish to read hundreds of fascinating articles about the resurgence of Piracy in many of the World's Oceans - most especially the Indian Ocean. You may be surprised to learn a great many details about this saga that seem to have eluded you.

mark wedlock

Reply by mark wedlock June 11, 2010 04:22pm PDTReport Abuse

All of you that want to condemn Abby and her parents are all fools your selves. That is whats wrong with today's society, you as a parent want to hold your child back if you feel that they are even remotely thinking outside of the box. How bout the parents who's teenage child that wants to join the military fully knowing the dangers of doing so given today's current world situation. They must be bad in your opinion as well, because there are also risks involved and a very real possibility of death. But they stand behind there child's decision, so that you can sit on Yahoo and voice your opinion about some girl who wanted a record for herself and to break her own barriers, because they are good parents. Abby's parents stood behind there child's decision just as any good parent should.GOOD FOR THEM AND ABBY AS WELL.

mark wedlock

Reply by mark wedlock June 11, 2010 04:22pm PDTReport Abuse

All of you that want to condemn Abby and her parents are all fools your selves. That is whats wrong with today's society, you as a parent want to hold your child back if you feel that they are even remotely thinking outside of the box. How bout the parents who's teenage child that wants to join the military fully knowing the dangers of doing so given today's current world situation. They must be bad in your opinion as well, because there are also risks involved and a very real possibility of death. But they stand behind there child's decision, so that you can sit on Yahoo and voice your opinion about some girl who wanted a record for herself and to break her own barriers, because they are good parents. Abby's parents stood behind there child's decision just as any good parent should.GOOD FOR THEM AND ABBY AS WELL.

trilliem

Reply by trilliem June 11, 2010 04:24pm PDTReport Abuse

@jondm63 First of all they volunteered to help, it usually does not require payment. Secondly if they were looking for payment I'm sure it would have been mentioned and / or paid. And when the story broke has nothing to do with this. The real question is when did the guys on this boat in the middle of the ocean with more important things to do then sit at the computer and read the news, find out there was a girl nearby that needed help?

karen24

Reply by karen24 June 11, 2010 04:30pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree with krippy2k. I mean, haven't you ever wanted something really badly, haven't you ever had a goal you wanted to pursue ? This girl actually had the guts to follow her dream. I ask you all to look back at your past dreams. Do you think they were silly ? Have you ever had the guts to follow that dream and do you regret it ? Some say Abby's too young, but people these days don't give people under eighteen enough credit. Maybe you think she was raised by jackasses of parents but you don't even know them as to make your own judgement. And Krippi2k is right, there's danger in everything we do, there's always a risk involved. But you know what ? Sometimes you have to take a risk to move on with your life. Where would we be without risks ? Where would we be if the people during the great depression, even know, didn't go ahead and do something about it ? Face it, we would get no where without risks, and that's the hard cold reality. Stop bashing Abby and saying she's too young, because sometimes teens can be a hell of a lot more experienced and mature than adults,especially most that I know. And if some died during the rescue, at least they died heroes because they know they made a difference in at least one person's life. That's why fire fighters, police officers, and doctors get up every morning. They also take a risk, but you know what ? In the end they know it's worth it and that they did good.

critterrice

Reply by critterrice June 11, 2010 04:30pm PDTReport Abuse

krippy, people don't purposely hold matches to their curtains hoping the house won't catch on fire. What an idiotic comparison.

kmd615

Reply by kmd615 June 11, 2010 04:31pm PDTReport Abuse

beeceesp - Exactly my point. I read articles like this one to hear an interesting story, NOT hunt down her family history and study up on key points that I know will come in handy later when I'm arguing for no apparent reason with everyone about why the family should be living their life the way I think they should.

Her, her family and their business is just that. THEIR BUSINESS. What makes you think you should be in charge of how they live their lives??

mark baloun

Reply by mark baloun June 11, 2010 04:45pm PDTReport Abuse

beeceesp - Your absolutly right! Our kids are so much better off getting fat and playing Xbox. How ignorant can people be, Christopher Columbus, Lewis and Clark, Buzz Aldrin, the Pilgrims that came to the New World..I mean the list goes on and on..how dare they realize there is more to life beyond the gates of your trailer park? Can you imagine if more people out there had the drive and the ambition to accomplish something in life..where would this world be?? Its sick to even think about it! Stay home people its a big scary world out there.Ohh and the rescue mission that you say is in the hundreds of thousands in cost..well lemme tell ya Im in the wrong business..If I can buy a fishing boat and rent it out for a few days for hundreds of thousands of dollars..damn Im rich!

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 04:46pm PDTReport Abuse

mark wedlock I don't think anyone is condemning Abby, nor questioning her bravery. Thankfully the laws restricting 16 year old children from joining the Military are in place to protect them from enlightened individuals like you (and Adolf Hitler and the Japanese Kamikaze Corps) who pride themselves for "thinking outside the box". And yes, Mark, they are "bad" in my opinion. If a child is free to make decisions like these, than why do they need parents?

kmd615

Reply by kmd615 June 11, 2010 04:59pm PDTReport Abuse

Actually, I'm going to follow my own advice and not care how beeceesp spends his time, whether it's being angry at some girl and her family for no real reason, or not. But a reminder before I leave, you are not in charge of anyone or how they choose to live. Nobody even got hurt, your life has not been changed one single bit by this news, and still you sit here arguing every point you can about how wrong they are. This isn't a case of child neglect, abuse, or any crime at all, so butt out.

But I guess I will have to agree to disagree, since I can tell you to leave this girl and her family alone as much as you can tell her parents how to raise their own child.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:59pm PDTReport Abuse

JonMd.... just to help clarify.

On the open sea (or oceans), it is a felt responsibility to assist any vessel in need at sea in your proximity (meaning if you can get there before anyone else especially), and in turn they do the same for you one day if your need should arise. It is expected of you and your vessel. This is done without question normally. If you get a call to help you do so. Without expectation of repayment for your efforts. Its an ethic. A courtesy. An obligation to those at sea. I watch out for you.... and you watch out for me.

I know the above is somewhat of an alien concept to so many. But it is a very strong bond of ocean going travelors, whether for business or pleasure. Sometimes it means putting your own self and vessel into harms way. Without hesitation or regret. Its done because an accident at sea could happen to anyone. Even yourself. You would not want someone not coming to help you in your time of need.....

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 05:19pm PDTReport Abuse

kmd615 With all the 13 year old hormones coursing through your veins - I understand how all this debate probably sounds like someone ranting about controlling people, or as you put it "being in charge of how they live their lives". I think, reading these posts carefully will reveal people debating this issue are not "arguing for no reason", they are (on both sides) obviously emotionally involved. Someday in the future perhaps, you may have a son or daughter of your own, and - having raised him or her from birth - will have your views on all things altered quite profoundly. I express my views in this blog knowing full well they carry no weight, affect Abby and her family not in the slightest. They are simply the anonymous views of someone who, upon learning of this young girls plight, became emotionally involved.

andrea daniels

Reply by andrea daniels June 11, 2010 05:20pm PDTReport Abuse

I understand where some of these people are coming from.

If I had ever asked my parents to sail around the world, nevertheless if I had experience at 16 of sailing, they would have said hell no, do it when you're an adult. Why does she have to do it at 16? Just to accomplish some sort of title as the youngest person to do it? Come on, it was irresponsible.

I mean, think of the people who are yelling at the parents who let their children go vacation as teenagers to a foreign country and then get taken or killed (ahem Natalee Hollaway). How is this any different? I could understand her parents saying, well for the first time, father and daughter go.

I totally think people to go for their dreams, but I think people should be responsible about it. I have a dream about visiting every continent of the world before I'm 40 (I'm 23 and I've only visited two!). That includes the Antarctic. But I'm going to be responsible about it and go at a time that minimize the risks. That means I'm not going to visit a world-torn country that hates Americans. I'm not going to put myself into any unavoidable risk.

The entire world isn't safe for everyone at certain times. Go at a different time, so you can minimize the risks.

deb long

Reply by deb long June 11, 2010 05:58pm PDTReport Abuse

I am only 29 and I once had the same dream, however, when it became a dream I was already married and we had a child. I understand you not wanting to put yourself into any unavoidable risk, due to my having a child I decided this was not a realistic dream for me, I too have no desier to visit a war-torn country that hates Americans. You should understand that regardless of a person's dream it WILL be UNATAINABLE without taking various risks all with degrees of danger in some way. Dreams are dreams purely because they are NEVER easy. Natalee Hollaway had vacation goals completely unlike Abby's. If I asked to sail around the world as a kid my parents would have said, "Sure when you have a boat and learn to sail." As far as why she wanted to do it at 16 well... why not mother nature packs a punch and does not discriminate based on age. If that's her goal and she knows what she's doing (which she does or she would not still be alive) why wait when the risk is the same?

mkbarker

Reply by mkbarker June 11, 2010 06:10pm PDTReport Abuse

jbrbro, beeceesp and all the rest of you who feel inclined to judge

These no good unworthy parents you are talking about managed to raise two amazing teenagers so I would say they have done a pretty good job at parenting. How many of you have teens that would have the courage, the ability, and the knowledge to do what both of their children have done? They are not doing drugs or getting in trouble, which by the way costs way more than a rescue mission to taxpayers. They will likely grow up to be productive citizens and out do any of us and our children put together, because they have parents that fight for them and believe in them. They raise them to stand on their own and follow their dreams instead of hand them a video game, put them behind a television and tell them to stay out of the way. These parents should be commended and so should Abby and her brother. We need more teens like this because this is our future generation. And as for "nearly meeting her maker" I have news for you if it was her time to meet her maker she would have. It was not God's intention to take this very courageous, strong, and brave young lady. I do believe it is His intention to allow doubtful people to see miracles. This young lady obviously puts her faith in God as her parents do and do not question His authority or abilities to let people see His work first hand. His hand is on the rescuers, Abby, her family, and everyone involved. If a life is lost in this it is His will and it would've happened anyway just in another way. Get over it. If you need something to complain about, complain about the government and what they are doing. Or instead of complaining get out and enjoy life. It's too short!

raggttop91

Reply by raggttop91 June 11, 2010 06:11pm PDTReport Abuse

thanks. Its nice to see someone display some sense. I was gonna say common sense, but apparently its not that common. All these folks in favor of her doing this, please chime in if youve let your chiild do the same. Ill sit here and wait

If you are in favor of her journey and so strongly support it, why hasnt your kid tried it? Some folsk actually are saying that youre not living unless youre taking risks. Well we all take calculated risks every day of our lives. We drive in traffic everyday, but we wont dwon the middle of the interstate in busy traffic with a 70 mph speed limit. Why not? That too is taking a risk and theres a chance that you could make it all the way home doing that and be successful.

We dont do it because the risks are too great for the reward. Its needless and we could accomplsh getting home without the extra risk to our life. Im sure my wife would much rather me be here to continue dreaming about doing or accomplsihing things vs trying to remember me in death trying todo something stupid. Yes, he is dead, but he walked 10 feet in busy traffic and was trying to accomplsigh his dream when he got hit by that semi.

Calculated risks. Common sense vs adventure. Combine them. Why did she even bother to wear a life vest? That would have added more adventure to the story to not have one wouldnt it? Some of you guys just dont want to get it. Its common sense. Theres no reason to even argue the rediculousness of it.

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 06:24pm PDTReport Abuse

mkbarker Go to a dictionary and look up the word indoctrinated. Better yet, familiarize yourself with Christopher Hitchens and his writings and lectures. You are very young, you still have time to salvage your life and keep it for yourself.

mkbarker

Reply by mkbarker June 11, 2010 06:29pm PDTReport Abuse

raggttop91 do you know how to sail? Do you have any dreams? If my kid knew everything Abby does about sailing and was as responsible and knowledgeable about it as she is, YES I would encourage it if it was their dream. It isn't just common sense. It's also maturity, responsibility, knowledge, some things that even forty something year old people do not yet have. Wouldn't you rather your child be that knowledgeable, brave, mature, responsible....than just sit back and say o wow that's too risky for me, better just sit at home today. And learn how to speak properly it implies intelligence. ie..("we wont dwon the middle of the interstate") And sometimes the rewards are not about money they are about the fact that we do something that no one else has done or even dared to do. That's the problem, everybody thinks too much about money. Not everyone does things just for the money.

mkbarker

Reply by mkbarker June 11, 2010 06:43pm PDTReport Abuse

beeceesp I don't need the dictionary I know what indoctrinate means and no thanks the fact that you mention Hitchens just helps me understand what I am dealing with. I may not be as young as you think, I am in law school and my life is what God graciously gives to me. Now I would sit and have a battle of the wits with you but you are obviously unarmed, so let me say to you find a KJV (that's the Bible) and read it because God is still in the saving business when you come to Him humbly, even for those that reject him their whole life.

vincent g

Reply by vincent g June 11, 2010 07:07pm PDTReport Abuse

Why is everyone talking about the cost to taxpayer and the coast guard? The only thing the coast guard did was call the girl's parents. The plane that found here was Aussie and a French fishing boat is going to pick her up. The last I checked the U.S. coast guard does not conduct rescue operations in the Indian ocean.

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 07:07pm PDTReport Abuse

mkbarker You are not dealing with me - especially as you are not in possession of a full deck and are already a fully indoctrinated American Taliban err, I mean Christian fundamentalist. The Bible you refer to was largely re-written by a pagan Roman Emperor named Constantine to suit his needs and bears very little relation to the Bible of Jesus time. And if you graduate from law school, there's a booming business defending Catholic Priests on charges of sodomizing young boys - perhaps like yourself? You sanctimonious phoney!

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 07:12pm PDTReport Abuse

"If you are in favor of her journey and so strongly support it, why hasnt your kid tried it?"

Because my kid has no interest in sailing. He does fly airplanes though, and when he turns 16 and is legally allowed to, he will probably fly an airplane by himself. I trust him to do this because I have given him the best training that money can buy, and I know he will do just as well as any "adult."

"We drive in traffic everyday, but we wont dwon the middle of the interstate in busy traffic with a 70 mph speed limit. Why not? That too is taking a risk and theres a chance that you could make it all the way home doing that and be successful."

But there really isn't much satisfaction in doing so, and it's illegal to boot, because it DIRECTLY puts other people in danger.

"Why did she even bother to wear a life vest? That would have added more adventure to the story to not have one wouldnt it?"

Risk yes, adventure, no. Risk != adventure, though adventure usually requires some risk.

kmvc50

Reply by kmvc50 June 11, 2010 07:28pm PDTReport Abuse

Don't forget the plight of Sailor Abby is not a done deal. She has not been rescued yet. It's great this girl has such experience at sailing, it's wonderful she has a dream of being the youngest to circumnavigate the globe. But she's a young girl.....she's 16. She's a minor. She's a junior in high school! She is only now old enough to get a driver's license. She may have sailing experience, but at 16 she lacks life experience. It seems to me tht her parents are living a dream vicariously through their child. Their plan for her to set sail with weather conditions what they are (in her exact location) tells me of their motivations. Child abuse? Child neglect, maybe so, maybe no. Child exploitation? YES! I expect that her parents are held responsible for her rescue costs, but I definitely hope they are held accountable for putting their child in harn's way. I can only imagine the horrendous emotional trauma this young girl has to endure. I pray for her safe journey home.

mkbarker

Reply by mkbarker June 11, 2010 07:30pm PDTReport Abuse

krippy2k

You may as well forget it. This is the reason our future generation looks so bleak. We can only give our children the tools to do the best they can so they will know how to deal with these peoples children when they grow up. If they are this negative in a discussion board imagine how they are in person. Way to go on giving your son the tools he needs to be a good pilot.

jimy0panda

Reply by jimy0panda June 11, 2010 07:30pm PDTReport Abuse

I'm still on the "Go Abby" side* but I must ask a question. What's the difference between a dream and a goal? And what makes us think this was her dream and not her goal? If you'll excuse my stupidity in asking but I think it's worth saying. It doesn't change anything about who she is or what she's trying to do but I'd just like to hear your opinions.

*The first comment I posted, I was completely sure that what Abby's parents did was the, if you will, the right thing. But after hearing both sides of the argument, I must say that both sides have very compelling theories and ideas that move this argument in their favor. Now after all this I'm slightly on the pro Abby side but still open to con Abby side, so to speak.

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 07:35pm PDTReport Abuse

I love the way people pretend to know the motivations of the parents. It can't possibly be that they're just vigorously supporting their daughter in what she wants to do, they have to be "living a dream vicariously through their child"... because it is clearly impossible that a 16 year old would have any motivations of their own.

16 year olds generally go to great lengths to do the opposite of what their parents want them to do, unless it happens to be the same thing that they want to do themselves. Especially 16 year olds growing up in California.

jimy0panda

Reply by jimy0panda June 11, 2010 07:38pm PDTReport Abuse

I kindly disagree. That's a loose stereotype. I'm 16 and so are half my friends and in my eyes (this will probably actually prove your point...) we're pretty grown up for adolescents.

mkbarker

Reply by mkbarker June 11, 2010 07:45pm PDTReport Abuse

jimy0panda

Your 16 and as you say "pretty grown up for an adolescent" if this was you and your goal or dream, would it matter if you had your parents support?

krippy2k

Reply by krippy2k June 11, 2010 07:47pm PDTReport Abuse

@jimy... a dream is a strongly desired goal, so it is both.

And I've got an idea, how about you all go over to Abby's blog and read all of her entries from the beginning, and see how excited she is about everything, and then come back and tell me it was all about her parents.

jimy0panda

Reply by jimy0panda June 11, 2010 07:51pm PDTReport Abuse

I would love it if my parents supported whatever I did but, I'm actually the middle child. It might not make sense but allow me to explain. I'm going to be blunt here. My older and younger sister are like my mom: preppy, cheerleader types (sometimes their shy). I'm more like my dad (partially in looks) but I love sports, I'll speak my mind, and I'm somewhat troublesome. For example, I want a tattoo but my parents would never approve. That doesn't mean that one day I might get one, it just means while I'm living with them I won't. Being the middle child is rough because I get the least attention. I'm not complaining because it's no big deal, but I'd like it if my parents and siblings would, for example, be home on my birthday. With that said, my parents don't support 100% of my ideas, dreams, goals, etc. but I'm still going to attempt to fulfill them regardless. Sorry, I'm rambling.

whatever0987654321

Reply by whatever0987654321 June 11, 2010 08:00pm PDTReport Abuse

The narrative of that all you need to consider is the pursuit of your own dreams regardless of the implications or consequences of your actions demonstrates the selfishness of that particular way of thinking. I think that most people who look unfavorably at this incident do so because this particular pursuit on surface looks to be self serving. What exactly is the point of her doing this? What purpose does it serve? It's a bit of a straw man's argument to say that people opposed this this sort of behavior are completely afraid of doing anything and that they think "nobody should ever do anything risky". That same flawed attack could be applied in converse saying those who support this are in favor of doing anything you want to obtain whatever you dreams are desires are and that desire alone is justification enough regardless of whatever anyone else has to bear as a consequence to your action. See that's the problem with extremes, they lock you into a position of absurdity.

The real contention with all of this lies on how people feel about the justification of her actions. I think most who are disapproving feel that the risk/benefit ratio is disproportionately negative. in other words, there is little benefit from doing this aside her own personal gain that can benefit others. While others feel that her actions can inspire others and that is worth the potential "cost" associated with any potential fallout. I guess it all depends on how much value you place on her actually completing her goals.

Personally, i feel you can inspire other with just the same amount or more energy/passion/zeal without the unnecessary amount of risk (this does not mean no risk, just a proportional amount relative to the "good" produced).

ryuaska

Reply by ryuaska June 11, 2010 08:23pm PDTReport Abuse

Suddenly many of you are lawyers and rescue workers... c'mon, don't discredit other people dreams if you cannot live yours. If risk is not taken, we will be stagnant at one point and will never evolve. Can you imagine, there will be no airplane, no lights, no Beethoven, no theory of relativity. People will think Edison was crazy to come out with an idea to light the night without fire before he invented the light bulb. You lot who doesn't even contribute to the society can shut up and read on. As long as these dreams do not in anywhere hurt anyone intentionally, I do think we should lend our support. Or else you wouldn't have movies like Titanic, Terminator, Star Wars, Star Trek, and so on. All these are to encourage youngster to follow their dreams. And god, million of people watch them and feel them. Can you imagine if Michael Jackson did not start young, we wouldn't have a king of pop today. Great Job Abby, keep it up!!!

leeann67

Reply by leeann67 June 11, 2010 08:33pm PDTReport Abuse

I will buy your book, let us know when you write one, I would love to meet you one day and shake your hand, my daughter is 16 and has some problems maybe what your doing well literally save her life. Just want to say thank you. Love leeann mattingly

gary earle

Reply by gary earle June 11, 2010 09:46pm PDTReport Abuse

Anyone who thinks this stunt is a laudable event knows nothing about open ocean sailing. To sail a small boat in the southern Indian Ocean at the start of winter is total lunacy akin to walking in a mine field. Fast moving, violent storms with 30 to 50 foot seas and near hurricane force winds can form there with short notice. These conditions are dangerous to the largest ships let alone to a 40 foot sailing vessel. Thankfully, Abby survived, but she is lucky to have done so. Now others must spend tens of thousands of dollars and risk their lives to rescue her. To those who say that they admire such courage and spirit of adventure, please stop confusing heroism with stupidity....particularly on the part of her parents.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:13pm PDTReport Abuse

well said !!!!!

mark baloun

Reply by mark baloun June 12, 2010 12:21am PDTReport Abuse

For the record I never compared Abby to any of the above referenced people..Buzz Aldrin Lewis and Clark etc. She obviously is not bringing anything new to the table of humanity like those people..what Im saying is the logic of all these naysayers would have quashed the dreams of the aformentioned adventurers therefore dealing a tremendous blow to humanity and its advancement.

For all those that think this was a bad idea Id like to see how Abby ends up in life, I have a feeling she will do very well in life..after doing this everything else in life will seem much easier..for example college, medical school..or whatever she puts her mind too. Maybe thats what her parents had in mind?

dskennedy

Reply by dskennedy June 12, 2010 12:45am PDTReport Abuse

Abby, you are a courageous young woman, who will not let anyone stop you. You are a great symbol of how people should pursue their dreams (men and women alike) Don't give up on your dream, go after it again. I admire your tenacity. You go girl!!!!!

lmylemonlime

Reply by lmylemonlime June 12, 2010 02:51am PDTReport Abuse

"All these folks in favor of her doing this, please chime in if youve let your chiild do the same. Ill sit here and wait"
Not everyone wants to sail around the world. Abby was just going after her dreams, and as long as she knew the risks - which she DID - and she still wanted to go, then what's wrong with that?
If no one pursues their dreams, we'd all be wasting our lives.

budknox

Reply by budknox June 12, 2010 04:55am PDTReport Abuse

I don't know how I feel about this. I think her parents were thinking about a book and fortune, when they allowed her to do this. Even the last young girl to do this a couple of months ago. She too was very lucky she made it alive. How much experience can someone that age possible have?? Can you really say 10-13 years of boating experience? So she was on the water by herself ( or was she sitting on her parents lap) driving the boat? It's a good thing she is safe(?), if she would of died, everyone would be up in arms against her parents. I don't remember who said it before, but you were right, the states have taken kids from parents and blamed them for less. Now everyone that is saying that these RESCUE WORKERS chose that profession, just STOP. What rescue workers are you talking about? The ones of the French FISHING BOAT, thats right a fishing boat. They are risking there lives to go get here (further out than they normally go), so yes they are risking there lives, beyond their profession. If someone falls in the water and drowns while rescuing her, are her parents prepared to pay the law suit from that sailors family?? Fisherman didn't ask to go out and get her, so everyone just quit saying that it's their profession and they know what they got themselves into when they joined it. I hope she makes it safe and the fisherman do too.

jimy0panda

Reply by jimy0panda June 12, 2010 07:53am PDTReport Abuse

You also have to remember that they quite possibly volunteered to retrieve her. Yes, I get the point that they are risking their lives but no one asked them to. I do hope that the fishermen and Abby get home safely but as someone said before me, "If it were their time to go, God will take them home."

joel amaro

Reply by joel amaro June 12, 2010 09:08am PDTReport Abuse

I applaud Abbey and her parents for everything they have done. They are heroes in my eyes. And to the dope that said it was all about " a record". You obviously cant read or you just glossed over it. When Abbey decided to continue her journey she already knew it was impossible to break the record. She did it because unlike so many other young ADULTS these days she isnt a quitter.She did it because she is more woman or man then most who have posted in this thread. She didnt turn tail and hide under the bed when things got tough. We need far more girls (and boys) like Abbey not less. Who are brave enough, confident enough, focused enough, to follow their dreams even if the road is some times tough, they stick it out. This world would be a far better place with more girls like Abbey and less of the little primadonas who are more concerned about talking about teen movies and texting their little friends at the mall. This girl has a 4.2 GPA and does volunteer work AND is an elite sailor. Obviously she has more intelligence and more bravery then many who have posted here.This young woman has accomplished more, shown more heart, then most if not all in this thread and certainly more than your dear little sheltered tykes will EVER do I think many in this thread are mostly angry because this young woman has completed more by the age 16 then they or their children will ever accomplish combined. This girl has a 4.2 GPA and does volunteer work AND is an elite sailor. Obviously she has more intelligence and more bravery then many who have posted here.. And she is only 16...... How sad for them and how glorious for Abbey and her family.... The Sunderlands can be assured that their daughter is going to strive and do whatever it takes to be the best she can be..... Can you say the same about your sons and daughters?

guest

Reply by guest June 12, 2010 10:59pm PDTReport Abuse

I applaud Abby for crashing her boat with courage and integrity. You can wreck my vessel anytime you want baby!

pepper17

Posted by pepper17 June 11, 2010 01:01pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I applaud people who go for their dreams! The question here is why did she choose this time of year when even experienced veterans of sailing stay far away from the Indian Ocean? Why did she throw all caution to the wind? Because she wanted to beat a record. Was it prudent to forge ahead when 40 ft waves were forcasted? That may be why there isn't another ship for 400 miles. Teenagers are notorious for bad judgement that is why they are minors and in the care of their parents. If she is rescued alive her parents should serve jail time for child endagerment and pay all the costs of the rescue. God forbid she dies that is punishment enough.My prayers are with the rescue teams that have to risk their lives to save such an idiot!!

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:03pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree, that rescue teams have families too, and dependents. And there dreams do not come close to "risks" of this minor age.

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:05pm PDTReport Abuse

I am sure america is great in appraising bravery and then very comforting in mourning with the bereaved families.

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:05pm PDTReport Abuse

Or what not...

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:18pm PDTReport Abuse

the whole family are fame whores.. total morons.. it wasnt about going after their dreams.. i never heard that 1 time.. all i ever heard was them talking about the goddamn record.

wombizzle

Reply by wombizzle June 11, 2010 01:19pm PDTReport Abuse

Pepper did you not read the story. There was no record tobreak, she had to stop at cape town, she continued on because she was finishing something she had started. The people doing the recovery have choosen that as their proffession. Im in the army, my family doesnt feel that since im in Iraq you should give your money to my family. I choose to do that, and if i die I leave two young children and a wife and two parents. Parents who rather i was 30 or 10 will feel the same if i die. Would you rather her wait till she is marrried and has children who need her. She finished High School a year early to make this trek. It has been in the works for years, and she went along with because she started something and was going to finish it at all cost. It takes bravery and dedication to do what she has done. She had the chance to quit halfway through at cape town, but drove on thru adversity.

Apostle Peter initially showed great faith by walking on the water towards Jesus, but as he walked fear grasped him as he began to sink. Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him, saying: "You of little faith, why did you doubt?"

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:25pm PDTReport Abuse

Peter did not have GPS, and weather predictions, expertise so he just relied on faith. People didn't doubt on Abby. It's how the calculated risks balance out.

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 01:29pm PDTReport Abuse

How about living the poor child alone. Basicly it is their own decision and not yours. And if you haven't forgotten, it is the rescue teams duty to rescue when it comes to such, besides, they chose to rescue this young girl.

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:29pm PDTReport Abuse

it started out all about the damn record.. bottom line... her dad was all about it, wanted something else to brag about and tell the world about his parenting skills and his familys genes or whatever the hell it was. i question his motives not abby's. also wombizzie, this is the 21st century not biblical times.. things are alot different now.. just to let you know.

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:31pm PDTReport Abuse

they didnt chose to rescue her.. they had no choice as human beings and allys of america.. dont be so nieve patricia.. they better hope noone gets hurt or dies because of their selfish stunt.

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:37pm PDTReport Abuse

Regarding reply of @patricia mallam fiji , have you experienced the loss of a family because they had to do their job rescuing people in very harmful conditions for man versus natural calamity?

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:38pm PDTReport Abuse

there is a big difference between a 10 year old and a 30 year old wombizzle,, i really hope you have no kids if you cant distinguish that.. as a parent you are supposed to protect your kids and all costs.. but at 30 you cant protect them anymore... its their responsibility then. bottom line if they died it would be on him, because hes still responsible for her.. if she was 30 that would be a different story..

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:41pm PDTReport Abuse

i dont think people should be saying anything negative about her.. because i guarantee her dad was pushing her as well as the fact her brother did it and im sure their parents were praising him left and right about it as well as the media. its no wonder she wanted to do this.. and she would probably be willing to die trying if it meant her parents would put her on a pedestal with her brother. i wonder what the rest of their kids will do to get their parents attention?

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 02:02pm PDTReport Abuse

Wow, that was a real quick response. Don't you people have better things to do than yapping around like bullshits? Just because you ain't part of the crew doesn't mean you are 'Mr, Mrs Ms or whatever you are, know it all' You can't judge them by their own actions. Just accept the fact what has been done. You can't do anything in the end.

Why not sit back and tune in with the latest news.

wombizzle

Reply by wombizzle June 11, 2010 02:03pm PDTReport Abuse

I do have two kids and you can go go check my face book. Levy Aaron Womble and see how awsome my kids are . I am a pretty good dad. And im very modern. Im not even all that religeous, i just used that as an example of faith in oneself. My duaghter could do this type of trek because she is resoursful and mature beyond her years, while my son is not so much. He isbrave but struggles with doing certain things alone. My daughter got hit by a var at the age of four on her bike . That didnt stop her from three days later getting back on her bike. Go watch Finding Nemo. Im freak out if i hear a noise at night, im scared to let ride in cars with other people, and when they sleep at night i go check their airways, so i know about the feeling of being a parent.

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 02:09pm PDTReport Abuse

then learn the fact that 'People are different' wombizzle.....

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 02:17pm PDTReport Abuse

patricia or patrick whatever u call urself, bullshits?? really?? this that what they say in fiji?? its true that its hard to tell the men from the woman there.. so is it patrick or patricia?

lexy

Reply by lexy June 11, 2010 02:34pm PDTReport Abuse

Sorry PATRICK! I'm with Wombizzle & Shawng on this....you ARE an idiot!!!!

gurugordon

Reply by gurugordon June 11, 2010 02:38pm PDTReport Abuse

Yes, there was a record to break. She could still have been the youngest person to circumnavigate the globe. She had around 1 month in hand, going by her own estimated journey times, to beat Jessica Watson.

lexy

Reply by lexy June 11, 2010 02:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Who cares about the record when you're putting not only yourself, but several others (rescue teams) at risk!!!!! Who's paying these rescue people, by the way? Do you not think our tax $$$$ have something to do with this?!

maybeso

Reply by maybeso June 11, 2010 03:19pm PDTReport Abuse

I'm with Bigcat and Shawng on this.

tfo

Reply by tfo June 11, 2010 03:31pm PDTReport Abuse

It's not about dreams, it's about the family getting in the record book. It's disgusting, they're disgusting. They should be sterilized. Awful, just awful parents. How many of you who applaud this "dream chase" would actually let your own teengager do this? Would you even let your teenager ride the subway in NYC? But you'd allow her to sail around the world, all alone. Come on, if you say you would you're lying, because you're not as reckless as her parents. They are pathetic and who pays for the rescue and what if someone got killed during the rescue? Great, how would you feel about their "dreams" then?

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 03:34pm PDTReport Abuse

thanks guys, the name is Patricia... derr...read user name properly!! Don't you guys know english? How embarrasing for you 'lexy' to call others an idiot!. That is so low of you. Mind you, i dont' even care what you call me, cos i don't hold temper like you do.
By the way, thanks to you too shawng for not knowing the differents between what women looks like and what men looks like. Obviously the picture say it all.
Have a nice day people, carry on the hard work humiliating yourself. oh, wait a minute, am I using words that are a bit to polite to get my message across? g'day ya'll!!!!!!

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 03:37pm PDTReport Abuse

I thank God for looking after her & still pray for her safe return home.

I admire that she was following her dreams, but the truth is her and her parents ignored the experts. That puts many other life's at risk. And when our economy is not very strong who pays for this, we the tax payers do!

If there is a book, i will not be buying into such a wrong choice. 100% of proceeds should go to the rescue first then she and her family my have the rest to others at risk

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:10pm PDTReport Abuse

PATRICIA MALLAM..... Can I come visit and do some diving at your house sometime soon!? lol You lucky thing you!

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 04:32pm PDTReport Abuse

Yeah yeah sure why not cybordolphin.... ;-) lols.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Patricia Mallam.... ah sheesh.... now they are going to hound you on your webpage! lol.

Oh.... will I have to learn French!!?? :0

dskennedy

Reply by dskennedy June 12, 2010 01:08am PDTReport Abuse

You people don't seem to understand that she is from a family who understands the risks involved with an endeavor like this. I am certain these parents did some deep soul searching to allow Abby to pursue her dream. She followed her dream for personal satisfaction, not for media attention. I am pretty certain her parents were not looking for fame. You people need to get a reality check, I bet you have never had a dream such as this or a deep passion in your heart to be as brave as Abby has been to try to achieve her dream. What can you claim as your life's dream? Where you ever as brave as this young lady to even attempt to achieve it? My bet is NO you weren't. Had you been you would not second guess her or her parents for Abby trying to pursue her dream. I would not stop my daughter from achieving her dream if she put so much effort into making it come true. You act like it was a rash decision for her to do this, like she was just going to the movies. Hello!! They have a lot of precautions in place, she has had training for this or she would have high tailed it home at the first big wave. Come on, there was a huge amount of thought and planning that went into this endeavor or she would not have gotten as far as she has or even survived the first storm. Abby, I applaud you, you are brave and you stand up for who you are. Don't let the stupid comments of others get you down. You keep going after what you want regardless of what the spectators say, but they are not as brave as you and that is why they are the spectators of life, while you actually live life. I could only wish to be as brave as you. I applaud you Abby.

shawng11178

Posted by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:15pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

her dad needs his head examined, risking his kids lives for fame and a record?? unbelievable.. these people are experienced sailors and they didnt think it would be dangerous for her to sail into the southern indian ocean this time of year.. i hope her dad was scared shitless by this and i guarantee you wont be hearing about any of their other kids doing anything this crazy.. her parents need the shit smacked out of them.. and anyone posting that there was nothing wrong with this whole ordeal, you are morons to, i guarantee any of you with kids would never allow them to do anything like this.. so shut up with the harrowing pride and bravery bs. it was just plain stupid.

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:16pm PDTReport Abuse

and for anyone who says her dad was just making his daughter happy by allowing her to do this is stupid too.. what else does he let his kids do when they say pretty please daddy??

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:29pm PDTReport Abuse

Abby could use some media attention or just do something to break the boredom, could have done more noble things to do that don't involve much risk. If only Abby had a dad's advice who was a sailor or national guard or rescue worker who seen what natural disasters could do to families. I guess nobody just proved it is more of risk to her and to rescuers than her determination and proof of human limits.

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:44pm PDTReport Abuse

her dad has got to be a moron and cant be that great of a sailor if he plotted her to go into the south indian ocean during winter.. either that or since it wasnt him going through it he just didnt care.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:18pm PDTReport Abuse

Shawng ..... you are a complete idiot.

You are so off base..... you could not be further. You are a nasty, vile, ignorant sole. And you have zero understanding of this family, and I am sure your own if we are so unfortunate to find out you even have one.

The rescuers by the way have applauded her. You fools.

maybeso

Reply by maybeso June 11, 2010 03:19pm PDTReport Abuse

I guess the rescuers are morons too, then, cybordolphin !

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:28pm PDTReport Abuse

No we are not morons. We just don't look at rescue the way you do. And your vile remarks to this family are out of line and completely uncalled for.

christopherrobin889

Reply by christopherrobin889 June 11, 2010 03:29pm PDTReport Abuse

I hope the parents are paying for every cents that were used to find her.

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 03:30pm PDTReport Abuse

cybordolphin You could learn a lot about taking responsibility for your actions by considering the opinions of shawng11178 in the spirit in which are intended; the protection of children (like you) If your argument is to simply hurl childish insults - please post on the children's blog. Then wash your face, brush your teeth, say your prayers and go straight to bed.

matt tully

Reply by matt tully June 11, 2010 03:31pm PDTReport Abuse

Come on, people. It's dangerous just walking out of the house these days. Life and death are fleeting, it's what you do with your life that matters. If she wants to sail the ocean and circumnavigate the globe, then so be it. If you've read her blog, she's more than a capable sailor. I would have pissed myself in those seas, but she actually seemed to be having fun. In this age of lackadaisical kids that only care about the latest video game, or texting on their phones, I applaud this young adventurer.

For those crying about the rescuers who have to go to her aid, would your tune be any different if she wasn't 16? If it were a 35 year old sailor who had made an adult decision to leave in this weather would you still be so sanctimonious in your criticisms? I believe it is those that are afraid of experiences are the same that are quick to jump on a soapbox and condemn those that aren't.

raggttop91

Reply by raggttop91 June 11, 2010 03:43pm PDTReport Abuse

If it were a 35 year old, I would think he would have moer sense and probably more experience, which would have told him not to go in almost hurricane strength winds. At 16, her parents should have told her that. If youre equating walking out of the house, with taking on 50 foot waves in a sailboat by yourself on the Indian Ocean, and trying to circumnavigate the globe on it.....please, dont have kids

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:59pm PDTReport Abuse

Beeceesp.... in the spirit in which are intended?

Put down the crack pipe and take it for what it is. Someone disrespecting a family, for the desire to make themselves feel better. Nothing more.

The protection of children. That is a joke. That has little to do with the posts. It has to do with someone doing something you can't control, put a law on, or stop. You and your kind can't stand it. You goofs..... do you understand this is not the first 16 year old to ever do this. Let alone other endeavors like it?

If you can't put down the parents for their decision, attack the age of the one engaged in the adventure.... you will try to make statements FOR the rescuers and even another country to make yourselves feel better.

I just am very glad you are the minority. It bothers me that there are those like yourself out there. But as long as you are helpless to effect the freedoms of others..... I can live with it.

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 04:22pm PDTReport Abuse

cybordolphin is one of those people who act like they are best friends with the family in question.. when he doesnt even know them... all im saying is i would never put 1 of my kids in that position and risk their life... when they are older and adults then thats their decision. until them im responsible for their lives.. i wish more parents thought like that.. if im a idiot for saying that then im an idiot...oh ya cybordolphin, you should go on a long trip alone so noone has to hear the crap coming out of your mouth..

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 04:30pm PDTReport Abuse

being a father i can put down the parents.. its the parents duty to protect their children (by law no less). when they are older then thats a different story, they are responsible for themselves.. you are the ignorant one cybordolphin for spitting out insults and thinking you are the only one with the right for opinions. i pray you have no children for they wouldnt be able to express themselves without being ridiculed by you. its just pathetic and this will be my last response to you as you are obviously outmatched in IQ and common sense by everyone else in here. Anyone else responding to him: let him talk to himself, im sure he loves hearing his own voice.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:38pm PDTReport Abuse

Shawng.... I would allow my child upon proven ability to risk their life. (I and you do it every day by the way).

That is not what this is about. It is about you not being able to do something someone else is. It is about you not being able to control the actions of others. You want to grasp for a law, an insult to those more fortunate than you, a trumped up regard for an expense that really does not exist and if and when it does is really none of your business. Just so you can feel better about your mediocrity in life.

You are not alone. Your kind has stood in the way of progress and exploration since the beginning of time.

Unfortunately for everyone else.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:48pm PDTReport Abuse

Shawng..... my appologies... I had you pegged for a woman.

If you don't want insults spit out at you.... don't make groundless remarks against those who have what you never will.

Again..... you are the minority. And that holds great comfort. Now go see what your kids are up to, and report back.....

mark baloun

Reply by mark baloun June 11, 2010 04:55pm PDTReport Abuse

Your right, we should all stay home and play our Xbox. How dare people go out and actually have ambition and drive to accomplish something. I see a ton of typical fat lazy Americans dissing this girl while sitting in their basements smoking pot eating double cheeseburgers and playing video games. GET A LIFE LOSERS. You know maybe we shouldnt lt children go to school either..I mean what if the school bus crashes..then the firemen have to go to the scene and put themselves in danger..lets all stay home. People like Buzz Aldrin and Lewis and Clark, Sir Edmund Hillary, just a bunch of selfish jerks right? Losers, that wish they had the ambistion to accomplish something other then sitting on their fat asses commenting about how bad these parents are. Cant see anything beyond the gates of the trailer park.

ocjvillarreal

Reply by ocjvillarreal June 11, 2010 05:15pm PDTReport Abuse

Would you also be willing to pay 100% for the search and rescue? Thats what any responsible parent who allows their child to take on this type of a task would do!

carm

Reply by carm June 11, 2010 05:28pm PDTReport Abuse

This is insanity- her parents should be charged with child abuse and neglect for abject stupidity.

carm

Reply by carm June 11, 2010 05:28pm PDTReport Abuse

This is insanity- her parents should be charged with child abuse and neglect for abject stupidity.

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 07:08pm PDTReport Abuse

ok lets put it to a vote, whos the bigger douche??? our old friend cyber or newcomer Mark?? My vote actaully has to be Mark considering hes actually comparing Abby with such people as Buzz Aldrin, Lewis and Clark, etc... her voyage is doing nothing for exploration or humanity.. weve exlpored the world entirely... are you actually saying we are all better off because she did this??? You are a bigger moron then her father... i just cant believe how idiotic your statements are Mark.. congrats!

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 07:18pm PDTReport Abuse

also Mark there is a difference between going about your everyday life and going out and putting yourself and your family in harms way.. most people can distinguish the 2.. people like you and her parents cant.. your comments make absolutely no sense... what does people eating cheeseburgers and playing video games have to do with a family allowing their minor daughter to risk her life.. for a damn record to their family can get more recognition?? I dont think ive ever encountered anyone with more idiotic statements since good ole Cybor.. let me guess you are 40 and still live in your parents basement, right??? Come on be honest...

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 07:30pm PDTReport Abuse

Shawng..... are you still dribbling from that infantile hole of yours....? Your inability to even spell, is an eyestrain. I can imagine your are a real charm to have around the house.

Why do you keep insisting everyone is 40 and living at home? Do I sense a bit of anguish on your part living off your parents? You know.... they say those who go around accusing others of being something..... often times are in fact the very thing they accuse. Sort of a paranoia.

Shawn... go eat or something...... please.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 07:32pm PDTReport Abuse

Lets compare Shawng's IQ to that of say....... I don't know.... Abby's FATHER? You J.A. You did not even graduate high school.... now lets REALLY be honest here...

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 07:32pm PDTReport Abuse

Lets compare Shawng's IQ to that of say....... I don't know.... Abby's FATHER? You J.A. You did not even graduate high school.... now lets REALLY be honest here...

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 07:43pm PDTReport Abuse

You are calling me infantile? you are the one who started the shit talking cybor, we were all having a mature conversation until you stepped in ... and insulting my spelling what about it?? seriously?? Also you are using the same things i said to you to me.. how un-original...I ended the IQ thing a while ago man.. give it up, come up with your own shit.. got to believe you and Mark are either butt buddies or the same person... I just cant believe 2 seperate people have the same idiotic thoughts.. I just cant believe it...

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 09:26pm PDTReport Abuse

well have fun people im done with this mensa meeting.. take care.. even you cybor.. dont let what complete strangers say to you get to you so much... not worth it.. more important things in life.. like your love affair with Mark.. sorry had to.. later people, i have to go think about letting my underage daughter circum-navigate the globe.. its a toughy... what to do...

bucknekkid3000

Reply by bucknekkid3000 June 11, 2010 09:50pm PDTReport Abuse

Screw all you jackasses who think you know what's best for anyone else. It's doubtful you know what's best for even yourselves.. If you did, you'd shut your mouths, keep your advice to yourselves and spare the rest of us from having to read your verbal diarrhea.

wombizzle

Posted by wombizzle June 11, 2010 01:23pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

THERE WAS NO RECORD

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 01:35pm PDTReport Abuse

there was when she started this stupid trip and there is no denying that.

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:27pm PDTReport Abuse

There should be a fine so these rescue teams get, on these self glory/fame stunts. Putting their lives in needless situations. Just because I swim every day, doesn't make me ready for the English Channel !!!

shawng11178

Reply by shawng11178 June 11, 2010 03:02pm PDTReport Abuse

well said steve.

beeceesp

Reply by beeceesp June 11, 2010 03:19pm PDTReport Abuse

Yes, Steve! A fine to cover the costs of rescue and the criminal investigation into parents who endanger their children.

matt tully

Reply by matt tully June 11, 2010 03:34pm PDTReport Abuse

Do any of you let your kids walk to school? If so then you should be brought up on charges of child endangerment...(sounds pretty asinine right?) But it's just as dangerous. Unless you're going to put your kids on a tether and keep them with you at all times, then you have to deal with the fact that it's a dangerous world and prepare your kids as best you can. Abby appears to have been pretty well prepared for her journey with a cool head in some pretty rough conditions.

raggttop91

Reply by raggttop91 June 11, 2010 03:46pm PDTReport Abuse

Sp lemme get this straight. Youre equating walking to school, for the purpose of receiving an education, to getting in a boat solo to circumnavigate the globe in hurricane strength winds with 40-50 foot waves?

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 03:54pm PDTReport Abuse

Some how i get the feeling that unless we do something like this we are all fat, pregnant, brain dead Americans.

matt tully

Reply by matt tully June 11, 2010 04:01pm PDTReport Abuse

you appear to have it straight, yes. Can you really not see the correlation? It's all about what your kids are actually prepared for. After reading Abby's blog, she seemed very well qualified to be sailing the globe, much like many (but not all) kids are prepared to walk to school. The danger/risk becomes a question of preparation. Abby's ship rolled (a point that many much older sailors say could happen to anyone) and she became stranded. It appears that she made all the right moves and problem solved with a very level head, so I really don't see a problem with her being out there. If people are worried about the financial responsibility of paying for the rescue mission, I am sure there will be some kind of bill forwarded to the parents, which I am sure they will gladly pay.

Truly much ado about nothing.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:03pm PDTReport Abuse

Raggttop...... let me get THIS straight. You are trying to equate sailing around the world as NOT receiving an education?

I do not know of a teacher out there... that would not recommend sailing around the world as opposed to sitting in a classroom.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 04:12pm PDTReport Abuse

I don't think any of this would be happening if she had not ignored those who told her to wait (that is not to head straight into hurricane ally)!!! but we have become a selfish society at the risk of others let her follow her dreams even when the experts told her it was to late in the season!!!!!

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:33pm PDTReport Abuse

LetsBeReal....

Weather can happen anytime of the year. Do some reading, "Dove" etc., and you can learn about sailing and the decisions involved in circumnavigating the world. 30-50 seas can occur during the BEST times of the year. The decision to leave port was made for reasons you have not taken the time to find out. Do that..... and understand.

Stop with the "risk of others". Talk to a few rescue team members and find out if THEY feel the way you do about their safety and making a rescue for Abby or any other floundered vessel. It is a job done without prejiduce, without expectation of some sort of repayment, without resentment towards a family or family member. The salaries are paid for. Done. Getting paid to do the job is already there, the job has already been created (thank god), and why a rescue is only a phone call away.
To be quite frank..... its boring sitting around waiting to receive a phone call for something you have trained most of you life to perform. And a life is a life. It does not matter whether 16 or 80. Its a risk taken into consideration when joining a team, don't insult those who have chosen the profession by inscinuating otherwise.

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 05:09pm PDTReport Abuse

Anything can happen, weather can happen , true. There are risk-takers and there are spectators. It's just a good balance so the world still goes round. We applaud risk-takers and free-spirits. Things happen for a "reason" and we all learn from it. Fortunate for Abby she got another chance back at life. Unfortunate for the happenings in BP oil firm, it will go down to history books as the worst oil catastrophe for the planet.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 05:55pm PDTReport Abuse

Ok Bigcat.... I am just not sure what the H*ll the BP oil catastrophe has to do with Abby sailing around the world.

raggttop91

Reply by raggttop91 June 11, 2010 06:34pm PDTReport Abuse

No cyberdolphin, I think you completely missed what I was saying. Matt, as far as being prepared for her voyage. This was her first attempt at this, so she was not experienced at world circumnavigation. To try such an attempt solo is not the smartest move. By further reading, others with much more nautical experience have stated that the trip should have been postponed because of the weather, and probably started later to increase the odds of success. Because of her and her parents desire for the record, she went anyways. That didnt make sense to me. As far as child endangerment. My ex wife is a social worker and has had children removed from their homes for much less. As their case manager, she has requested a child be removed for being abandoned and left alone for 72 hours by the parent. If thats the law (the child WAS removed) then I fail to see how leaving the child alone on a boat for 6 months in dangerous waters, to circumnavigate the globe, is not endangerment. So either both of thes violate endangerment laws or neither does. The law was placed there for a reason. We cant chose which laws to follow simple because we are chasing dreams.

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 08:38pm PDTReport Abuse

@ raggttop91 Once Abby sailed outside the US waters, she is outside of US law.

Child endangerment is a relative thing. We endanger our kids when we take them swimming or skiing. They are endangered riding in the car to a birthday party. I know of 16 year old kids that aren't responsible enough to be left alone and those that can be responsible enough to watch their siblings. Abby has sailed under her father's eye for years and he knows what his daughter is capable of and you and I can only guess at how remarkable she is.

1bit

Reply by 1bit June 11, 2010 08:59pm PDTReport Abuse

I'm very glad the young woman is safe, as I'm sure everyone else is as well.

For the critics of her parents, I would just add that natural selection will prove you correct in the long run.

For the dreamers, I want you to know that I am a surgeon and my son's dream is to perform his first brain surgery by the age of 16. I am confident that I can teach him what he needs to know by then. I'm sure many of you will be cheering him on and that's great news because he's decided you will be his first patient. Don't worry, complications occur even in the hands of the most experienced so don't feel bad if something goes awry. Because what difference does experience make anymore, when everyone is just a Google search away from being an expert? Why fritter away your life with training and learning when you can follow your dream and live a life without consequences? And everyone knows that if you don't live your dream by the time you are 20 or 30 then life is not worth living.

jenvarsity

Reply by jenvarsity June 11, 2010 09:15pm PDTReport Abuse

"Sp lemme get this straight. Youre equating walking to school, for the purpose of receiving an education, to getting in a boat solo to circumnavigate the globe in hurricane strength winds with 40-50 foot waves?"

I'm fairly certain that she learned more about life and living, among many other things than any one child would learn in their entire schooling career; not to mention the education that she received, whether she walked, rode a bus, was driven, or hell maybe she sailed her sailboat to school (and yes I'm being facetious). Regardless of what someone is doing, it seems that we all forget everyone is learning at every moment...whether you are learning how ignorant people sound and how to recognize the voice of ignorance, in which case you are learning how to better yourself as a person with a 'what not to do' method or learning something that most people twice your age/her age/practically anyone's age will never learn.

She and her parents, her family, chose something that they felt would better her as a person - at least she will have a story to tell her grandkids other than, "When I was little, I walked to school in the snow, up and down the hill 5 miles each way..."

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:02pm PDTReport Abuse

I help our children every day i am a guidance counselor. And one of the most important lessens is to follow their dreams and work hard at achieving them ever when things fail, to learn from their failures. but i also teach them to learn from those around them. i would never encourage them to follow their dreams in the path of harms way. what all of you are missing is that Abby was not just crossing the street or going to school. she was going to circle the world!!! and she surrounded her self with expert advice in order to succeed at her dream. her mistake was to ignore the very ones that could help her succeed at her dream. and for that reason i can accept her choice as a wise choice. in the end she made a decision to leave port simply for the glory of a record and not the dream!!

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:04pm PDTReport Abuse

I do help our children every day i am a guidance counselor. And one of the most important lessens is to follow their dreams and work hard at achieving them ever when things fail, to learn from their failures. but i also teach them to learn from those around them. i would never encourage them to follow their dreams in the path of harms way. what all of you are missing is that Abby was not just crossing the street or going to school. she was going to circle the world!!! and she surrounded her self with expert advice in order to succeed at her dream. her mistake was to ignore the very ones that could help her succeed at her dream. and for that reason i can accept her choice as a wise choice. in the end she made a decision to leave port simply for the glory of a record and not the dream!!

lmylemonlime

Reply by lmylemonlime June 12, 2010 02:48am PDTReport Abuse

"All these folks in favor of her doing this, please chime in if youve let your chiild do the same. Ill sit here and wait"
Not everyone has the same dreams of sailing round the world. Abby was just following her dream and met disaster. Everyone should pursue their dreams if they know the risks (which Abby DID) and still want to do it. We'd waste our lives if we don't try to go for it.

1bit

Reply by 1bit June 12, 2010 04:05am PDTReport Abuse

My other son has a dream of driving across every continent unassisted by the age of 12. I'm sure I can teach him how to drive. And he'll have a credit card and a cell phone. What could possibly go wrong? Shame on all of you cynics and haters for not wanting him to live his dream. Because everybody knows that the best dreams in life are those driven by ego, fame or greed.

wombizzle

Reply by wombizzle June 14, 2010 10:56am PDTReport Abuse

1bit if you have been training your child in surgery since they was born and they demonstrate that they are perfectly confident and meet all requirements of the physician's license and certification from the American Board of Medical Specialists or the American Osteopathic Association., than ill be the first patient. I'm mean every surgeon has a first right. We let 16 years old everywhere put more lives at risk with a driver license. Which brings to your 12 year olds dream, you just need to let them know that isn't possible due to the fact that his endeavors will put other at risk. And now you will say oh well so did she, except, those people get paid and choose to do what they do. I do not get paid nor choose for a 12 year old who can barely see over the steering wheel to play bumper cars with me and my family. Now maybe at the legal driving age of 16 he could be better equip for such a trek. For the next four years and can research routes and place of interest to see. You can work on languages(spanish,german,and russian would be the most common) ,that could be of use in other countries, as well as go over currency differences. Self deference classes could also come in handy, enroll now. You might do some weather training too, like go visit somewhere colder and warmer than what your used to for long periods of time. Good luck to both your children.
Wocka Wocka Wocka

sunshine hunt

Posted by sunshine hunt June 11, 2010 01:26pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

"i admire her courage & dream, but really with all the dangers of the sea & weather i think the buddy system is still wise & she should not attemp this alone. i'm relieved she is found & alive & well. she is spiritually strong & thats commendable. nature & its elements are as well & can be overwhelming for a human to conquer. want her to understand with all the publicity she may be looked upon as a role model for kids not just her age & safety is important & should be taken seriously that there can be limits. not something for everyone to try & lots of kids will attempt just @ anything! whether god, luck, destiny, or favorable forces of nature, etc. she is well & all of us aware of this excursion, interested & wiser. we all learned something from this, find the positive & be thankful. life happens!! ~sunshine~"

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:32pm PDTReport Abuse

I would love to hear Abby say something about "lost rescuers" and the "losses of their families doing rescue missions".

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 02:04pm PDTReport Abuse

there you go bigcat!!!...with your so 'whatever' comment..lols

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:24pm PDTReport Abuse

Bigcat...... are you serious....? Talk to any rescue team. They do not look at this any way close to how you are.

It thrills me that there is nothing you ignorant aholes can do about Abby and her family doing what they want to do. And further that you are embarassing yourselves with your BS.

I know you wish SO hard that you could enact a law.... or do something about this and what other adventurous soles have done..... but you can't. I love that. Your pathetic whining is almost entertaining..... I mean that to all the negative posters.

debra lambeth kelly

Reply by debra lambeth kelly June 11, 2010 03:39pm PDTReport Abuse

do I detect a negative comment toward those who have opinions other than that of which you squawk?

patricia mallam fiji

Reply by patricia mallam fiji June 11, 2010 03:45pm PDTReport Abuse

You go 'cybordolphin'...i agree with you.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 04:07pm PDTReport Abuse

Debra Lambeth....

These are not really "calculated" opions. They are disturbed, disgruntled, sorry I WANT A LAW against everything, folks, that are just venting their frustrations at life because they were unfortunate to have been born without an adventurous bone in their bodies.

debra lambeth kelly

Reply by debra lambeth kelly June 11, 2010 04:23pm PDTReport Abuse

cybordolphin
ROFLOL! I suppose that statements rings true!!! :)

bigcat

Reply by bigcat June 11, 2010 05:03pm PDTReport Abuse

For @cybordolphin, you seem to be so wise enough to be a parent of child or children. We'd like to know how do you define the difference between "adventure" and "risk" ? Can you give practical examples for both, so that the so-called "negative/jealous" may understand?

missk5

Reply by missk5 June 11, 2010 05:26pm PDTReport Abuse

To go it alone..sometimes..Is the right thing to do. If you don't..you're just left with wondering..What If? Doesn't matter how old or young you are. ( just glad Abby is found & safe)

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 08:28pm PDTReport Abuse

Bigcat asked: We'd like to know how do you define the difference between "adventure" and "risk" ? Can you give practical examples for both, so that the so-called "negative/jealous" may understand?

Let me answer that. RISK is getting out of the bed in the morning. ADVENTURE is going outside.

Here's another way of putting it: RISK is attempting something that you haven't thought out. ADVENTURE is the same thing after a lot of practice and thought.

My suggestion is for many of you that can't understand (or don't want to understand) what an unusual person Abby is, read her blog and see how she has responded to the many challenges she's overcome to get this far. When she gets a chance to tell about what tore her mast off her boat, I think she will admit to it even being her fault. People that blame things outside of themselves don't learn anything except how to find better excuses. Abby, in her blog, exhibits the kind of self-evaluation that has made her so exceptional so young.

Whether you are religious or not, Jesus' directive to not be judgmental is still good advice. I think it is especially so when it comes to girls who have been told for centuries that they are incapable of doing great things, or to shrink their dreams to finding a good husband.

It wasn't until the Cowardly Lion set out on the Yellow Brick Road that he began to find his courage, and for all of us we too have a Road before us. Abby's Road may not be your Road, but don't deny her dreams or her journey to those dreams because yours are so small or so different you can not understand her's.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:17pm PDTReport Abuse

I help our children every day i am a guidance counselor. And one of the most important lessens is to follow their dreams and work hard at achieving them ever when things fail, to learn from their failures. but i also teach them to learn from those around them. i would never encourage them to follow their dreams in the path of harms way. what all of you are missing is that Abby was not just crossing the street or going to school. she was going to circle the world!!! and she surrounded her self with expert advice in order to succeed at her dream. her mistake was to ignore the very ones that could help her succeed at her dream. and for that reason i can not accept her choice as a wise choice. in the end she made a decision to leave port simply for the glory of a record and not the dream!!

anne hall

Reply by anne hall June 12, 2010 01:17am PDTReport Abuse

Well said, sunshine. Definitely pleased she's well. She is in an elite category of individuals who lives life pursuing her dreams, undeterred by what the ignorant and fearful may say. She has the integrity that most individuals only fathom. We should all be inspired by her. Good job, Abby!

bigcat

Posted by bigcat June 11, 2010 01:34pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

She can join the National Guard for catastrophe and deep-dive missions, if that's her "calling" for adventure and being role model for bravery.

ilmbm22

Reply by ilmbm22 June 11, 2010 03:11pm PDTReport Abuse

Atleast this Abby girl isnt out getting knocked up by some random guy like most girls her age, atleast her expectations are set high, you go Abby!!

debra lambeth kelly

Reply by debra lambeth kelly June 11, 2010 03:33pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree bigcat! do something constructive with her life other that risking others for the sake of glory!!

raggttop91

Reply by raggttop91 June 11, 2010 06:40pm PDTReport Abuse

Was that her only option? Gp on a solo voyage in a boat facing gale stength winds and 50 foot waves for 6 months chasing a record, or be somewhere getting knocked up? Really? Those were the only options? You guys need to bring much stronger arguments to the table. There are millions of teenagers out chasing their dreams everyday. However, when your dreams involved escalated risk of loss of life, you may want to reevaluate that. If youre under the age of 18, hopefully your parents cna calculate the risk for you.

wendyinca

Posted by wendyinca June 11, 2010 01:49pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Brave young girl and lucky to be alive indeed. Her attempt at breaking a record - nonstop solo sailing around the world at age of 16 - ended when she broke down, it is stated. I want to see her on land and then I want her to say "it was all worth it" and "thanks to my rescurers I am alive to talk about this with you today."

Then, I think it is time for the parents to describe their rationale in allowing their beloved little girl go into these waters without a shadow ship. That they have not been on the news up to the point says to me they are feeling humiliated and embarrassed.

Abby's brother, however did come forward stating "she was prepared for this" but also that "he wanted to see her." I think I saw love for a sister and fear for her life exhibited by him during that interview.

The majority of posters are aghast at this near death and terrifying ordeal and I believe that as always, the majority is right.

She isn't out of the water yet. A prior leak is what I am concerned about. Let's not relax until she is on the rescue boat.

grinder1964

Reply by grinder1964 June 11, 2010 02:49pm PDTReport Abuse

I'll relax when the Feds slam them with a huge fine for reckless endangerment and committing search and rescue services for a media stunt

maybeso

Reply by maybeso June 11, 2010 03:21pm PDTReport Abuse

Grinder gets 2 thumbs up !

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:32pm PDTReport Abuse

The majority of posters are unemployed derelicts.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:33pm PDTReport Abuse

Reckless endagerment...... lol.... wacky.

Hey grinder.... look up how old you have to be to fly an airplane. That will really put your unwashed undies in a bind....

grinder1964

Reply by grinder1964 June 11, 2010 04:28pm PDTReport Abuse

cyberdolphin- circumnavigate my ass hole with your fishy beak

jhelsdon

Reply by jhelsdon June 11, 2010 05:25pm PDTReport Abuse

I guess selfish parents will continue to let their children perform dangerous tasks until on is dead.

Then finally someone will say..enough is enough.

I guess it would be OK to let a child who has studied physics, build a rocket and attempt reaching orbit? Why, because they had a dream of becoming the youngest to do so. Seems you need to evaluate risk at some point. Perhaps a parent saying NO would work.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 06:00pm PDTReport Abuse

Lol.... Grinder... at least we know you have some sort of sense of humor.... fishy beak.... damnit... that is funny!...

vxthoma

Reply by vxthoma June 11, 2010 07:48pm PDTReport Abuse

@Lindsey Shappell....I can only hope that your response is out of sheer ignorance and that you don't have children. There is a huge difference in every example that you gave. For one...rescue workers exist to help people who are in danger of course...but most people don't put themselves in that danger...it's usually an accident. What if someone jumped off a bridge and a rescue worker died trying to save them? I don't think people are being critical of the rescue workers...I think people are saying...look...did this really have to happen? Was this really necessary? And I think if a lot of people stop and thought about it...the answer would be no. Great for her dream and her determination...but this could have really put a lot of people in harms way...and I don't believe this is what rescue workers put their lives on the line for. And as for all of the professions you named like pilots and taxi drivers...it doesn't relate to this story at all. This is about a CHILD whose parents made a bad decision...period.

locamary

Posted by locamary June 11, 2010 02:04pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I'm glad she is doing fine. Congrats to her! Like they say if you fail try, try again. I'm sure people will be lining up to sponsor her in the next trip, and I look forward to reading about when she completes her goals. Age is just a number and neither defines one's character, maturity and capability.

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:40pm PDTReport Abuse

The Market will use her to make money...just like she used the rescurers' safety to aid her in her failed attempt. My God If All of us felt and lived out our death wishes for self glory, Coast Guard would never be ready for the big ships with innocent people on board. There should be a fine. Make parents accountable. The whole family was in it for the fame. no doubt about it. Just because I swim everyday, I'm not ready for the English Channel.

locamary

Reply by locamary June 11, 2010 03:21pm PDTReport Abuse

Life is a contradiction, most of us are told as children that any dreams we have can become a reality, but yet when someone's dream turns into a reality we criticize it and turn it into a ugly thing. Shame, shame...I much rather see a little light at the end of the tunnel, rather then see all the faults in this world. Less Cynical= More Happiness, "fame whores" or not...it is what is...

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:08pm PDTReport Abuse

I do help our children every day i am a guidance counselor. And one of the most important lessens is to follow their dreams and work hard at achieving them ever when things fail, to learn from their failures. but i also teach them to learn from those around them. i would never encourage them to follow their dreams in the path of harms way. what all of you are missing is that Abby was not just crossing the street or going to school. she was going to circle the world!!! and she surrounded her self with expert advice in order to succeed at her dream. her mistake was to ignore the very ones that could help her succeed at her dream. and for that reason i can not accept her choice as a wise choice. in the end she made a decision to leave port simply for the glory of a record and not the dream!!

mraj231267

Reply by mraj231267 June 11, 2010 11:09pm PDTReport Abuse

ITS NOT EASY . SHE WAS WILLING TO DO IT. ITS ADVENTOROUS AND TAKES GUTS!. SHE MANAGED MORE THAN HALF THE JOURNEY. IF THE MAST BREAKS ITS NO FAULT OF HERS. THANK GOD SHE IS SAFE. CONGRATS SUNDERLAND.

megawatt56

Posted by megawatt56 June 11, 2010 02:08pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

She represents the American Spirit, which we seem to be losing. Never give up until you succeed. Go Abby!

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:43pm PDTReport Abuse

Spirit... or Stupity yes stup. pity There is a lot going around these days.

d singer

Reply by d singer June 11, 2010 02:54pm PDTReport Abuse

Spirit.

maybeso

Reply by maybeso June 11, 2010 03:21pm PDTReport Abuse

Stupidity

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:36pm PDTReport Abuse

Spirit. And someone who has ability. Something there is NOT alot going around these days.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 03:53pm PDTReport Abuse

Some how i get the feeling that unless we do something like this we are all fat, pregnant, brain dead Americans.

debra lambeth kelly

Reply by debra lambeth kelly June 11, 2010 04:37pm PDTReport Abuse

only if we choose to be fat pregnant brain dead Americans. There is the potential to be anything we want as long as we do it without being stupid and careless.

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 08:50pm PDTReport Abuse

If Abby was stupid she'd have never made it to the Equator months ago.

"Spirit" is the name of one of the rovers on Mars. Few people know that it was given its name by a nine year old orphan girl from Siberia who longed to be adopted. Amazing things happen to people with Spirit. If you lack Spirit, you are really dead but don't realize it yet.

Abby has more then Spirit, she has True Grit... that's a kind of courage backed up with determination that we rarely see even in adults.

gary jacques

Posted by gary jacques June 11, 2010 02:10pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

If Abbey had made it, there would no questioning, no second guessing and the critics would be saying something about something else.....

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:44pm PDTReport Abuse

Crazy Kid.... you did it!!!!

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:39pm PDTReport Abuse

Crazy?

That has always been said by people like yourself...... of those with an adventurous spirit, and courage to explore. It takes that kind of person to do what Abby is doing. You will sit back and enjoy the benefit of those like her that came before. And never muster up enough spine to even show a glimmer of thanks nor praise.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 03:53pm PDTReport Abuse

Some how i get the feeling that unless we do something like this we are all fat, pregnant, brain dead Americans.

grinder1964

Reply by grinder1964 June 11, 2010 04:33pm PDTReport Abuse

shut up cyber tuna, the only adventure you have is figuring out how much longer you can live with your parents. idiot

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 06:03pm PDTReport Abuse

Grinder.... you are far too clever for me.... and dolphins are not made with tuna Jessica.... I mean Grinder....

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 08:04pm PDTReport Abuse

Please don't everybody get her confused with a Lewis and Clark. They had a plan, they took the risk, and we all gain from their risk. They didn't a pat on the ass and was given good luck kisses from their parents.

goatcheese

Posted by goatcheese June 11, 2010 02:23pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

All you folks are a piece of work. Why get all strung out on this? Let's have a "discourse", not a "diss-fest".

takeyoutofunkytown

Posted by takeyoutofunkytown June 11, 2010 02:23pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I applaud her parents. If you lock your kids in a room where they can never take risks and never get hurt then they will never experience life and may as well never have lived.

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:48pm PDTReport Abuse

Give her a damn basketball and let her cross the road. These days that's risk taking. But Mom and Dad have more to hand to their little angel. Now go Make us famous!!!

maybeso

Reply by maybeso June 11, 2010 03:22pm PDTReport Abuse

let her trek through Europe then ..... still risky solo at 16 but not as ridiculous as this !

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 03:50pm PDTReport Abuse

Some how i get the feeling that unless we do something like this we are all fat, pregnant, brain dead Americans.

jbrbro

Reply by jbrbro June 11, 2010 04:33pm PDTReport Abuse

@Maybesco The only way that might be safer is that she isn't out on the open ocean. Of course she'd have a few million perverts and criminals to deal with but you know Europeans don't do disgusting things to young women. Yes much better idea that one.

aligirl

Reply by aligirl June 11, 2010 04:56pm PDTReport Abuse

Taking risks is one thing but this was just insane. Shes a child. And her parents let her risk her LIFE for a record. They are idiots. I dont see how anyone can think this is ok

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 08:09pm PDTReport Abuse

Only another kid would. Like possibly cybordolphin. Just a guess ; )

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 08:58pm PDTReport Abuse

@ aligirl Abby's dream is "just insane" to you, it wasn't to Abby. Her dream far exceeds anything I would have the courage and determination to dream of doing.

Some people, like Abby, have a spark in them that is in tune with the sea. You can read it in her blog. She is far happier out of sight of land then near shore. I would compare her to a wild animal; sure it is safer in a zoo, but then what of the spirit?

chuck kirkpatrick

Posted by chuck kirkpatrick June 11, 2010 02:23pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Thank God she's safe. Now..watch the networks, publishers agents, etc. start lining up for the exclusives....

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:49pm PDTReport Abuse

Crazies always lead

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 03:52pm PDTReport Abuse

Some how i get the feeling that unless we do something like this we are all fat, pregnant, brain dead Americans.

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 09:00pm PDTReport Abuse

@ letsbereal, I think they were saying that because of your attitude that's how you will be defined.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:29pm PDTReport Abuse

@ ronald mckenzie

My attitude has always been the same,
I prayed for Abby and her Family,

but i cannot condone what she did simply because she ignored the advise of those who were there for her safety and success. We surround our self's with experts when ever we set out on any Journey as dangerous as Sailing the Globe at 16. And when you simply ignore those who are trying to help you succeed at your dream there must be another reason beyond the dream?

bmc6

Posted by bmc6 June 11, 2010 02:25pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

It must be nice to have so much money that you can even consider sailing around the world. I'm thinking about how to keep my checking account "in the black" until I get paid again. Then the game starts again.
Thank goodness for over-draft protection.

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:51pm PDTReport Abuse

Her parents are investing in their kid. They would get money too. better believe it. You know little angel didn't save up for that boat.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:41pm PDTReport Abuse

It is a used boat, and yes in fact she did save. Get over it. And the family is far from rich.

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 09:08pm PDTReport Abuse

When a person is determined and committed to a dream, there is no telling what they can bring into being. The boat and outfitting it for the trip took over $90,000 US.

There was, only a few years ago, a girl of eleven (if I remember right) who suffered from terminal cancer. She was so determined to raise money for a cure that she opened up a lemonade stand. Now we all know that's a terrible way to raise millions of dollars, but she was determined and committed to making a difference and that spirit made it happen. In fact even after her death her energy to raise money with lemonade stands continues on.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:32pm PDTReport Abuse

@ ronald mckenzie

My attitude has always been the same,
I prayed for Abby and her Family,

but i cannot condone what she did simply because she ignored the advise of those who were there for her safety and success. We surround our self's with experts when ever we set out on any Journey as dangerous as Sailing the Globe at 16. And when you simply ignore those who are trying to help you succeed at your dream there must be another reason beyond the dream?

kamelia

Posted by kamelia June 11, 2010 02:26pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Ok. I am glad she is alive. I do not care about her decision or/and her parents's decision to sail solo at this age as long as the family pays ALL the costs of the rescue efforts. I would respect them more if they pay the rescue bills.

You cannot just go and fulfill your dreams and once you fail for any reason, you expect others to rescue you FOR FREE. Tax payers do not have to endure these costs. As I was not involved in the decision of sailing SOLO at this age, I should not also be involved in paying the rescue teams.

marcrag

Reply by marcrag June 11, 2010 03:39pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree with you 100% Kamelia. One must not expose one's self to great risk for personal glory or accomplishments just so rescuers will have to do their rescuing job when things go wrong. Those human and financial resources used to rescue her could be put to better use rescuing people involved in accidents they did not knowingly exposed themselves to. If these adventurers have to do it, they should get insurance or bonds to cover rescue expenses when it becomes necessary.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:44pm PDTReport Abuse

The rescue bills will be paid.

By not only the family and sponsors (if asked to pay which is not going to happen because that is the most rediculous idea to begin with), and by all of her supporters. Namely myself.

No are you happy? Find something else to whine about....

grinder1964

Reply by grinder1964 June 11, 2010 04:34pm PDTReport Abuse

wow, you really are a dork cybertuna

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 08:11pm PDTReport Abuse

I think cybordolphin is in love..............

ronald mckenzie

Reply by ronald mckenzie June 11, 2010 09:10pm PDTReport Abuse

Would you like some cheese with your whine, Kamelia?

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 11:12pm PDTReport Abuse

I help our children every day i am a guidance counselor. And one of the most important lessens is to follow their dreams and work hard at achieving them ever when things fail, to learn from their failures. but i also teach them to learn from those around them. i would never encourage them to follow their dreams in the path of harms way. what all of you are missing is that Abby was not just crossing the street or going to school. she was going to circle the world!!! and she surrounded her self with expert advice in order to succeed at her dream. her mistake was to ignore the very ones that could help her succeed at her dream. and for that reason i can not accept her choice as a wise choice. in the end she made a decision to leave port simply for the glory of a record and not the dream!!

jenvarsity

Reply by jenvarsity June 12, 2010 08:14pm PDTReport Abuse

I had a dream; and I followed it. I was a VERY successful CERTIFIED cheerleading coach by the time I was sixteen years old. I was also on the Varsity team at my school AND worked THREE jobs to support what I enjoyed. I was in the Macy's Day parade right after 9/11 - was it safe to fly then? Everyone was saying no, my parents argued and cried over making the decision to or not to let me go - I went, and I made it back safely, was I supposed to give up that part of my dream because of the horrendous dangers? It was a terribly sad time to be there, we couldn't get anywhere within a few blocks of the towers and the boats wouldn't land at the Statue of Liberty for fear of terrorism...would I trade that scary, sad, and exciting moment so I could have stayed home? I'll tell you no, not unless my parents would have said no - but they didn't, they supported my goals all things considered. As for my successful coaching career, I coached at least five years before hanging it up - another goal my parents did not necessarily agree with, but they supported 150%, board meetings, cheer meetings, you name it they were there to tell everyone even though I was 15.5 going on 16, I was the one who would make the team successful. I had 4 teams, grades 5 - 8 and over FORTY girls to coach. I coached them, I didn't bring in anyone else, we were from a small town and raised our own money. The teams wanted to combine for competition their SECOND year and guess what...They took second place. Nobody is going to stand there and tell me parents won't support a dream that's dangerous and could kill you - the consequences of my cheering and coaching I feel each and every day when I wake up and I'm not even thirty years old yet...I can't run with my step son and I won't be able to keep up with my baby girl, but I'll sure try. I will be able to teach them to NEVER to give up their dreams. So what if it was for a medal she would place on her dresser and let get dusty? It's her medal...

jenvarsity

Reply by jenvarsity June 12, 2010 08:14pm PDTReport Abuse

People don't understand that personal goals are filled with passion, excitement, fear, and any other emotion you could possibly think of; whether they are successful goals or not. If there wasn't media/medals/money/controversy/whatever else anyone wants to throw in there...she followed her dream, will live to tell about it, and learned a hell of a lot along the way. Don't go after someone's personal goals unless you've been in their shoes and can understand exactly what they're thinking. One person's right frame of mind is what someone else would consider out of their mind. A goal is a goal no matter how big or small / easy or hard / not dangerous or dangerous - no matter which way you look it up in the dictionary the definition remains the same.

nobodyimportant

Posted by nobodyimportant June 11, 2010 02:27pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

If I left my children home alone or unattended in a vehicle, I'd be arrested for child endangerment. But let her sail her underage spoiled ass around the world alone...sure that's o.k.

kamelia

Reply by kamelia June 11, 2010 02:31pm PDTReport Abuse

Ditto

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:58pm PDTReport Abuse

That's because it's marketable. She'll be doing the swimsuit addition for SI mag. for sure.

kmd615

Reply by kmd615 June 11, 2010 03:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Just an observation - if you left your 16 year old home alone or unattended in a vehicle, you would NOT be arrested for child endangerment.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:46pm PDTReport Abuse

She is not "spoiled", and her family is not rich. Again.... you might want to check it out before you post garbage.

Its funny how everyone thinks if you have a boat and live in California you must be rich. Get a clue.

aligirl

Reply by aligirl June 11, 2010 04:58pm PDTReport Abuse

agreed!

samsamsam

Reply by samsamsam June 11, 2010 06:43pm PDTReport Abuse

@cybordolphin Well when I watched the video about this earlier it said that the family bought her a $90,000 boat. So I'd say they have a pretty good handful of money. Oh and Thousand Oaks California is where they live, which is stated in the article, houses down there are pretty nice I'd have to say. I'm happy that she is safe even though I think this way to dangerous for a 16 year old.

raggttop91

Reply by raggttop91 June 11, 2010 06:48pm PDTReport Abuse

kmd615, you dont know where she is or the rules applicable in her state. Every state has its own laws regarding child endangerment that take off where the federal guidlines end. In my state, you can be arrested for child endangerment, but not the next state over. Thats what my wife does. She is a case manager for the state.

fmortgage200

Reply by fmortgage200 June 11, 2010 07:43pm PDTReport Abuse

Congra... on her save return home... and her strong desire to be successful,,, but there is a point where the parents have to be the parents and actually say No! ... for the safety of their child.

jenvarsity

Reply by jenvarsity June 11, 2010 09:50pm PDTReport Abuse

Is she spoiled?

sickboytodd

Posted by sickboytodd June 11, 2010 02:29pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Gimme a break. How often does this happen anyway? Hey does your teenager have that skill and the desire to sail the globe?
I didn't think soooooo.
Look, she comes from So Cal, the land of extreme sports. That's just how it is.......
Get hope Abby, u need a warm, dry, valley summer!
U rock.

steve kauffman

Reply by steve kauffman June 11, 2010 02:53pm PDTReport Abuse

I swim everyday, I'm smart enough to know, I'm not ready for the English Channel. But maybe a PUSH from Dad with money to boot... I can try...........

adadamerican

Reply by adadamerican June 11, 2010 02:53pm PDTReport Abuse

ALL great things came from little people with big dreams. There is no doubt more great things in life for this girl. Who knows, she could have come up with an idea for some invention for saving sailors while she has been on this trip. That's how it works folks, I know--I am an inventor. ALL gain comes from big risk. She has the 'right stuff'.

marcrag

Reply by marcrag June 11, 2010 03:41pm PDTReport Abuse

Yeah, but who pays for the big risk when things go wrong? Inventors mostly use their own resources and do not bother anyone else. You should know that as an "inventor" yourself.

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:49pm PDTReport Abuse

You swim every day and you never had the dream to swim the English Channel?? Well why not? Most swimmers have had THAT dream. And guess what. Some have actually done it.

And yes... it is true with a push from your dad and if you went out and raised capital for your dream.... you too could have acheived the dream.

You do have dreams don't you Steve?

Well if you don't..... don't feel bad. Just don't crap on those who do.

letsbereal

Reply by letsbereal June 11, 2010 04:10pm PDTReport Abuse

I don't think any of this would be happening if she had not ignored those who told her to wait (that is not to head straight into hurricane ally)!!! but we have become a selfish society at the risk of others let her follow her dreams even when the experts told her it was to late in the season!!!!!

grinder1964

Reply by grinder1964 June 11, 2010 04:36pm PDTReport Abuse

Cyber tuna, I'm dreaming someone will put a harpoon through your head

maybeso

Reply by maybeso June 11, 2010 05:46pm PDTReport Abuse

Cyberdolphin, you keep telling everyone that they're the minority in their opinions ...... it sure seems to be there are more people that thought this was foolish than not foolish ! You really sound like an ignoramus ! and I love how you keep telling everyone "what it's really about" LOL

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 06:05pm PDTReport Abuse

Grinder..... of course you are..... we know. We get you already. But this is not about you..... ;)

vxthoma

Reply by vxthoma June 11, 2010 07:29pm PDTReport Abuse

I seriously don't understand how anyone can condone this trip!!! If my 16 year old daughter came to me and said she wanted to go on a trip around the world on an airplaine...by herself...I would tell her absolutely not!!! Are you kidding me? How many of you would let your kid hop airplanes around the world....wait....better yet what if she wanted to fly the plane by herself around the world at 16? This is not heroic...this is something that she wanted to do...which is fine...but do it as an adult...not as a child..and for the parents and authorities to let this happen...I don't know what kind of world we are living in...it's scary. There's nothing wrong with being adventurous and determined...but please...let our children wait until they are legal adults to do it.

fmortgage200

Reply by fmortgage200 June 11, 2010 07:44pm PDTReport Abuse

ditto

fmortgage200

Reply by fmortgage200 June 11, 2010 07:44pm PDTReport Abuse

ditto

melynda sartain

Reply by melynda sartain June 11, 2010 08:04pm PDTReport Abuse

IF MY CHILD KNEW HOW TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IT TOOK TO FLY THE THING THEN YES I WOULD IF IT WAS THERE DREAM....I WOULD RATHER THEM DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEN GET INTO GANGS AND DRUGS AND ALL THE NASTY THINGS OF THIS WORLD. SO INSTEAD OF SQUASHING THEIR DREAMS WHY DONT YOU TRY HELPING OUR CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD!!!!!

johnna

Reply by johnna June 11, 2010 08:39pm PDTReport Abuse

melynda -- stop screaming! turn off the caps lock.
your kids knowing how to fly and flying around the world are 2 different things. abby may have been a knowledgable sailor, but that doesn't qualify her to sail around the world solo. she had no experience at it. had she gone with someone else first, and understood what she was up against out there, and then (as an adult) wanted to make the trip solo, i would support it 100%. to say it's ok because it was her dream is stupid. teenagers have bold dreams and no fear of death. they don't worry about risking their lives. that's why their parents need to say "no" when they have dreams that are dangerous like this.
the people who do have experience circumnavigating the globe, or sailing in the indian ocean said before she went that it was too dangerous for her to go. clearly this wasn't for a dream of circumnavigating the globe. only for being the youngest to do it.
she was reckless just for glory, for fame, it's stupidity. and her parents letting her was negligent.

xenomancy

Reply by xenomancy June 11, 2010 10:27pm PDTReport Abuse

"Legal Adult?" If American society had it's own way, they would raise the "Legal Age" to 25. Look at History. Romeo and Juliet were 13 and 14 when they chose their fate. Bernnini completed almost all of his marble masterpeices before the age of 22. Many other geniuses, dreamers and adventurers did their most noteable contributions to the human race before the age of 25, and now in this country we have more 25 yo's living with their parents than ever before. The NFL has a program called Take 60 which encourages kids to spend 60 minutes a day outside...is this for real???? Back in the 60's, 70's and 80's my parents couldn't keep me in the house for 60 mins. We were always playing and exploring our world. I applaud Abby and her parents for honoring the human spirit! My brother and I were lost at see for an afternoon when we got trapped in a rip tide in the raft we were riding the waves with. We were just having fun and things went wrong. Hmmmm, yes rescue workers helped us and a fishing boat saved me after my brother abandoned ship. I was 9 and he was 12, and it remains one of my scariest and fondest memories of my childhood. Keep encouraging your kids to take that last wave, to build a rope swing, or even to dream of sailing the world. I had a friend once named Johnny, and his parents said NO to him so often that he thought his name was No Johnny No. Kids are more capable than a "Legal Age" gives credit for. In an earlier post someone said it, at 17 we can send our children to die in a war for no reason, but yet they have to wait if they want to dream.

realitycheck

Reply by realitycheck June 11, 2010 10:31pm PDTReport Abuse

It is nice to have ambitions and dreams. It is nice to realize you have a lifetime to fulfill them.
However, as we have seen proven time and again, things have gone terribly wrong.
I see a lot of people say, whats the difference between 16 and 18, its only 2 years.
Well a 14 year old (differnce of 2 years) girl, was one of the youngest pilots in the world.
It was an ambition and I am sure her parents were proud of her. Unfortunatly, Letting go and letting them live their dream, even after getting all the permits, passing tests, etc.. can just be a false sence of security. That little girl died in a fiery plane crash when she was flying solo one day. And for what? To break a record, to be recognized for accomplishing something as a very young person? There is a reason that your children are under your legal responsibilty until they are 18, they need to be protected, love, disciplined, and most importantly, taught that there is still time ahead to get more experience. I'm not saying wait forever, but as you can see, this storm kicked her ass, put her family under a lot of strain and horror. Why, because it just had to be done her way. They did discuss about it a lot I am sure, but really, would it have killed her to wait just a little longer when Nature was more inviting instead of knowing the Storms ahead where coming?
Her record failed, and she wanted to continue on, that's a great fall/pick your self up experience. But if you fall, you should be weary of broken glass before you use your hands get up again. Knowing that the delay in stopping only meant worse weather ahead, I would have persuaded her to try again and again, later in life, not encourage her to finish it, which she could not as we can see. Is this a lesson for all of the family? You can bet her will is strong to do this again, but I'm sure there will be changes next time, and Luckily, she gets a next time.
Things could have turned out disasterous.

gregsincere

Posted by gregsincere June 11, 2010 02:29pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

It seams it was all prepared

for the Hollywood Hungry People

and it worked.

- Another question:

How there are plans to make

a trip to Mars, if they cannot stop

a oil spil at 1.700 Meter ?????

.

goldwing

Reply by goldwing June 11, 2010 03:25pm PDTReport Abuse

Geez - Learn to spell and punctuate.
"Seams" ? "A oil spil"?

cybordolphin

Reply by cybordolphin June 11, 2010 03:49pm PDTReport Abuse

lol

mnphysicist

Reply by mnphysicist June 11, 2010 08:47pm PDTReport Abuse

If the oil companies or even NASA for that matter put 10 years of intense R-D effort into deep; water spill containment and mitigation it would be a reasonably easy thing to do, albeit not without any risk... but Joe6Pack doesnt want to pay $7/gallon of gas to cover said costs.... so we are where we are.

cosmo jeffries

Reply by cosmo jeffries June 11, 2010 11:35pm PDTReport Abuse

it's easy to see that some records are not meant to be challenged or broken for the most obvious of risks. if her parents really loved her for all the right reasons there'd be a couple of dozen sound points to be made as to why they'd forbid a journey like that.......

instead they've decided to live vicariously through their childrens exploits.

chemical45

Reply by chemical45 June 12, 2010 01:00am PDTReport Abuse

Well, honestly...I think this all is a bunch of BS. #1. The girl is 16 years old. #2 The fact that the parents let her go and persue her dream, cool with me, but be smart about this...give her a few more years when she turns 18. This kid wants to "break the record" of being the youngest person to ever sail around the world...whats to say the next kid will be 15, then 14, then 13. I mean really, come on people. I have done alot of high-risk thing in my life too...even when I was young. But at least there was a line that my parents drew in the sand and said "Don't cross that and everything will be square." I'm am not saying that these parents are horrible parents by all means. I think the girl has big dreams and a strong will, but very impatient. Has the world really come to this? Your name in a record book? Wow...bah bah little sheep. Everyone wants to be in the spot light.

nomi

Reply by nomi June 12, 2010 05:11am PDTReport Abuse

I agree with you Carol. I will also be in line to buy her book. TFO it has only turned into this youngest sailing the globe because of the media coverage it got right from the beginning if she had been older it would have been a one day wonder in the press. beeceesp go suck eggs because thats all you r intellegence will allow you to do.
As for those of you who keep critising her and her parents about how much it is ghoing to cost you in taxes get real dont you think the family have also paid into this tax fund.

P.S I fell this winter on some ice and broke some ribs should I have just laid there incase the Ambulance crew were endangering thier lives by also walking on the same patch of street, and when my friends car went off the road should she have been left in case the rexcue teams put thier own lives in danger to crawl down the embankment to rescue her just in case they were in danger as well. Its a job they choes to do

nomi

Reply by nomi June 12, 2010 05:12am PDTReport Abuse

Good on you Abby I am glad you are safe and will soon be on your way home

bryan oerez

Posted by bryan oerez June 11, 2010 02:34pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

first even if i just met her i would say no ur not going around the world in a messed up boat a couple of reasons first that boat is not meant for travaling and second their ar actual pirates out on sea how do i know this this couple was doing the same thing around the pacific ocean and was taken captured by african pirates theirs a documentary on journeytv.com

wickedmonkey

Posted by wickedmonkey June 11, 2010 02:34pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I think her parents should be thrown in jail for child endangerment or abuse. If they would have gone on vakay and left her alone in their house and something happened, they would be in jail and she would be taken away. At 16 she had no business doing this on her own. A kid can't fly outside the US without a parent or guardian so why can she sail around the world? She's lucky she wasn't raped and murdered at sea. Very disgraceful. At 18 we can all be grown ups and do grown up things and I think she should've waited until 18 at least. Hopefully her parents will get stuck with the rescue bill.

kamelia

Reply by kamelia June 11, 2010 02:38pm PDTReport Abuse

Agree. I did not know that a kid under 16 cannot fly outsite the US alone. This is interesting. This argument can be used against the parents to SUE THEM.

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