Reply by joshua biddle June 22, 2010 08:09pm PDTReport Abuse

They DID win fairly though. Just because ONE guy they hired didn't have his license doesn't mean it wasn't fair. They didn't cheat or anything.

Reply by thebeav23 June 22, 2010 08:56pm PDTReport Abuse

fairly means competing within all rules and regulations, which obviously they did not.

Reply by thebeav23 June 22, 2010 08:58pm PDTReport Abuse

may have been just some stupid technicality, but they should have checked into that kind of stuff before they entered.

Reply by js1971 June 22, 2010 10:11pm PDTReport Abuse

If one of the owners was a retired Colonel then he should known that you have to do a hands on visual check of all required equipment/documents prior to departure. A basic rule we all seem to learn the hard way. Especially in a million dollar tournament. Why leave anything to chance????

Reply by kumar keshavan June 22, 2010 10:21pm PDTReport Abuse

why do you need a license for ocean fishing in the first place?

Reply by shawn walker June 22, 2010 10:31pm PDTReport Abuse

The state of North Carolina requires all saltwater fisherman to possess a license (tax). Not the owners responsibility to check the crew, its the captains responsibility.

Reply by gang June 23, 2010 01:24am PDTReport Abuse

How does the fact that a hired hand working on the boat, not having a license, have ANYTHING in the world to do with Angler Andy Thomossan catching and landing that winning monster. Give it back to them.
As far as the previous comment , I don't see anywhere in the artical that said he, Peter Wann, was a fisherman. He was just crew the way I read it.
I don't know anything about deep sea fishing but was he actually still in North Carolina waters when he caught and landed the fish or was he far enough out to sea to be considered international and then just brought it back to the weigh in for the tornament.
Just maybe Peter Wann did not even need a license depending on where it was caught.
Does this mean that every guy in a pleasure boat with a fishing pole is in violation of some DEC law if everyone on board his boat doesn't have a license? What about his young children that may not be old enough to be licensed but are " working " helping keep the boat clean, getting dad a beer out of the cooler or maybe more bait.
A catch 22, not old enough to be licensed but everyone on board needs to be. That's a good one.

Reply by phongu June 23, 2010 02:17am PDTReport Abuse

I'm no expert on fishing license law, but I would figure that if you don't have a fishing license in state waters that require one, then you're doing so illegally, thus voiding your qualification for any prizes available in the fishing tournament.

As for why you may need a fishing license in the first place... Some states require saltwater and/or freshwater fishing licenses. Usually they do this to raise more revenue for their state. I'm not sure about each state, but at least here in Florida, the money used from fishing licenses is appropriated to the Fish & Wildlife Research Institute for fishing conservation efforts.

Think about it this way: if some Joe Schmoe (recreational fisherman) is out there and doesn't know what he's doing, like keeping fish that are too small/young or improperly disposing of his fishing line, then he can negatively impact fishing populations. Multiply that with whole populations of people, and you can kill local fish populations fast, which is obviously a big deal, esp. for a state that depends on tourism and fishing.

Reply by daniel lynch June 23, 2010 03:54am PDTReport Abuse

I really think that they shouldn't have denied the WHOLE crew of such an achievement. At least they should've gave the record to them, maybe not the purse because yes, it is illegal to be out there without the license, but come on!! That fish is huge and not many other people would come even close to it!

Reply by garryt_0161 June 23, 2010 06:19am PDTReport Abuse

in some states,,if you have anything to to do with the harvest of game or fish,you need a license,,,even if you just hold a game bag,,your a partisapant and need a license

Reply by farmerjoe June 23, 2010 08:05am PDTReport Abuse

To Phongu - I don't know what you're getting at by saying some Joe Schmoe is out the fishing and not knowing what he's doing. Cause you don't need to know what you're doing to get a fishing license anyway. So license or no license doesn't mean you got someone out there keeping small/illegal fish or improperly disposing of line or what have you.

Reply by jamie grayson June 23, 2010 08:16am PDTReport Abuse

It was an idiot move by the mate and heard that it was a long walk by to Hatteras because they left his ass on the dock at Alantic Beach! I guess its better than becoming fish food on the way home..

Reply by trav22 June 23, 2010 08:46am PDTReport Abuse

YEa thats NOrth n south carolina for you. Theyare intense about their fishing and game restrictions. A fish and game officer has more power than any other law officer in the state. They can enter you house with their guns loaded and drawn without a warrant if they expect any kind of fish or game foul play. They take it a bit more seriously than other states so this doesn't surprise me at all.

Reply by danny le June 23, 2010 09:14am PDTReport Abuse

They should mount that idiot up on the wall instead of that trophy marlin!

Reply by kmengarelli June 23, 2010 11:19am PDTReport Abuse

damn right!!!!

Reply by byron neal June 23, 2010 02:24pm PDTReport Abuse

To Gang: Actually the the tournament rules state the the first mate on the boat must have a license to fish. Since Peter Wann was the first mate he broke the rules. SUCKS, but good job by the committee and the owner.

Reply by michaelknapp1986 June 23, 2010 02:27pm PDTReport Abuse

I LIVE IN THE COUNTY THAT THIS ACCRUED IN. JUST IN THE PAST TWO YEARS NORTH CAROLINA HAS IMPLEMENTED THE FISHING LICENSE. WHICH SUCKS. IT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR OUT OF STATERS. BUT THEY DECIDED THEY COULD GET MORE REVENUE. BUT THE TRUE STORY ABOUT THE GUY GETTING THE LICENSE WAS AFTER THEY CAUGHT THE MARLIN HE WENT TO THE ON OBOARD LAPTOP AND PURCHASED HIS LICENSE. BUT THE 883 MARLIN WAS A RECORD SETTING MARLIN ALSO.

Reply by robert j broussard June 23, 2010 06:36pm PDTReport Abuse

It does not matter what or whose waters the fish was caught in. The tournament rules are what counts because they govern the payout. The captain should have had a meeting with his crew and made sure everyone had the correct credentials for the tournament. I have been fishing billfish tournaments for over 20+ years and we make sure everyone on the boat esp. the rookies have everything in order and go over the rule & regs twice before the baits hit the water. When you consider the money everyone spends to enter and fish the tournament it was the right ruling. The captain screwed up............................................................................................................................

Reply by pwcbf June 24, 2010 12:16pm PDTReport Abuse

THIS ARTICLE IS ALL LIES. there was no lie detector test, he admitted that he had no license right away he had nothing to hide. he was always used to there being a license on the boat and was never asked if he had a license until the day of the awards. oh and the captain words are extremely dishonest about him lying. he said that "you take a man for his word" but Peter was never asked. the person who wrote this article was terribly misinformed and acted in an extremely cruel fashion. Why would yahoo want to trash a respectable, honest young man such as Peter Wann?

Reply by powerandintegrity June 24, 2010 03:41pm PDTReport Abuse

All I could possibly remark would be "man, that sucks" I'd say more. but wow, honestly im left speechless. I've seen some really wretched endings to some competitions before, but to technically have caught the winning fish, and be denied the million dollar prize just because of one crew member? THAT SUCKS

Reply by gang June 27, 2010 04:17am PDTReport Abuse

Byron - Thanks for the info that he was first mate - seems that that would imply he had the experience to know of past turny rules. The fact that he was not just someone they grabed off the docks to mop the deck was not mentioned.
So I would even excuse the captain and/or owner in a case like that except for the part of simply asking, "Hey - got your license with you pal ?" LOL - that does seem pretty easy.
But - NOW - where were the turny officials - couldn't they have just looked up his name at sign-in on a computer and said, "Whoa buddy, fork over your license fee before climbing aboard.
OK - so he attempted to or did buy his license via the on-board computer - how tough are the turny rules - did Pete need the license before leaving the dock - before hooking the first fish - before landing the first fish?? Can't imagine that that was the first fish they hooked so it was probably catch and release until you got the one you wanted to bring back.
What would have become of it had they not had the winning fish - the would have competed for the entire turny and no one would have been the wiser.
Just my opinions
Gang

Reply by gang June 27, 2010 04:26am PDTReport Abuse

Thank you Gary T.
Very nice info there - anything to do with it and you need to have license.
Gang

Reply by mirandagc91 June 22, 2010 07:28pm PDTReport Abuse

its not considered a big rock record doesnt mean that its not a national record, but the team didnt technically qualify to be in the big rock so they technically didnt compete which is why it cant be considered a big rock record

Reply by tralfaz June 23, 2010 12:59am PDTReport Abuse

Yeah, the tournament was blown, but if officilly recorded, a record fish is a record fish

Reply by mirandagc91 June 23, 2010 04:54am PDTReport Abuse

there was also speculation the fish wasnt caught during the tournament due to the blackish color of the fish from what ive heard no official word as far as i know whether they kept investigating that or just pursued the citation because they knew that alone would disqualify them

Reply by pauloriente June 23, 2010 05:33am PDTReport Abuse

Marlin like dorado change colors quickly when they get out of the water

Reply by mirandagc91 June 23, 2010 06:33am PDTReport Abuse

yes they do but not that quickly if they are properly iced and any sports fisherman knows that

Reply by petero303 June 23, 2010 06:52am PDTReport Abuse

I was on a boat that caught a marlin once. Small in comparison though it was, it changed color by the time it was on the boat. As the fish died, so did its glow. It was so sad. No amount of ice is going to stop that. Its got to do with the fish dying. Actually its like the soul departing....What a waste of a life. Very cruel to witness. Turned me off fishing. Marlin really are beautiful creatures.

Reply by lostinnc June 23, 2010 07:09am PDTReport Abuse

The only other speculation was the fish was hooked outside of designated waters, this was dismissed when another boat that was within 200 feet of the Citation said he was in proper waters.

Reply by mirandagc91 June 23, 2010 07:32am PDTReport Abuse

there was that speculation there was also the speculation it was caught the day before by another vessel who was not entered into the tournament, there is currently speculation on the 3rd place now 2nd place boat that their fish was caught outside of designated water into virginia but nothing has been finalized on that.

Reply by rai chun June 22, 2010 07:26pm PDTReport Abuse

that's just hilarious :)

Reply by mjhessling June 22, 2010 07:29pm PDTReport Abuse

Didn't notice that. Good point.

Reply by mike childs June 22, 2010 08:33pm PDTReport Abuse

That's a coincidence, not an irony.

Reply by virginia huntsville June 22, 2010 09:01pm PDTReport Abuse

Actually no, it is not both. It is pure coincidence. Irony implies a reversal of predicted outcome based on circumstance. In this case, based on the name alone, one would imply that the predicted outcome, again based solely on the name of the boat, would be that of a citation for the crew. The fact that they did get a citation was coincidence since it happened to coincide with the name in relation to the actual outcome. I am a college English professor and as such have enough free time ponder stupid crap like this. Plus, I think this stuff is fun.

Reply by eriestench June 22, 2010 09:40pm PDTReport Abuse

It is ironic that the college English professor read the above wrong. "That's a coincidence, NOT an irony"

Reply by eriestench June 22, 2010 09:40pm PDTReport Abuse

sorry, could not resist

Reply by phongu June 23, 2010 02:21am PDTReport Abuse

Based on the name alone, yeah, it's a coincidence, but I don't think any fishermen out there are actively looking for citations. Naming the boat would've been done so facetiously, and they never would've expected or wanted a citation, so I still think it's ironic.

Reply by bb2dp June 23, 2010 02:51am PDTReport Abuse

So professor, if the name of the boat was say, "Reward" then in your mind wouldn't it be irony? Here's another definition for citation:

"...any award or commendation, as for outstanding service, hard work, or devotion to duty, esp. a formal letter or statement recounting a person's achievements."

Since this is also a definition of the same word then isn't it ironic because it falls into your explanation of reversal of expected results?

Reply by nc fish June 23, 2010 05:49am PDTReport Abuse

bb2dp is exactly right, in this case the name 'Citation' is actually in reference to a good thing: In NC if you land a fish above a certain size (i.e. a flounder over 6lbs.) and get it weighed at an official weigh station, the state will send you a certificate of achievement... which they call a citation.

I hope that settles it!

Reply by tpeluso84 June 23, 2010 07:30am PDTReport Abuse

nice to have some local input...isn't the state record like 1,100 lbs. or so?

Reply by lostinnc June 23, 2010 07:48am PDTReport Abuse

Also speeding and , Oh yeah, Fishing without a license a citation is issued so there is some irony.

Reply by luis santiago June 22, 2010 08:07pm PDTReport Abuse

Get a job ya hippie!

Reply by karen weitzman June 23, 2010 12:13am PDTReport Abuse

another one of our rights taken away......big brother hard at work.

Reply by bob owens June 23, 2010 02:21am PDTReport Abuse

And why give a fishing license to an imaginary wizard in the sky?

Reply by funny guy June 23, 2010 06:52am PDTReport Abuse

If you love it so much, pay the $15...

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 07:06am PDTReport Abuse

I guess only one out of three understands the metaphor I used the other two comments are by the same type sheep that allows big brother to get away with this crap of licensing everything and everyone. By the way luis I own three companies what do you do live with your mother still I bet.

Reply by luis santiago June 23, 2010 07:43am PDTReport Abuse

You own three companies and still have time to post such tripe online and say I live with my mom? what are you five? Here's a tip: begging for change, squeegeeing windows, or collecting cans with your beggar friends, isn't a form of employment. Loser.

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 08:22am PDTReport Abuse

Yes I was right you must live at home.I own 2 computer stores in Maine and 1 in Massachusetts I have all the time in the world just to piss off morons like you who post stupid replies.

Reply by orkneymoor June 23, 2010 09:15am PDTReport Abuse

Another intelligent and uninformed blogger. I suppose you would have to understand what would happen without regulation and licensing? Maybe overfishing?

Based on your comments you have not a clue...big brother? Come on. Do you fish? Do you hunt? Do you not understand that the revenue generated by the licensing goes towards enforcement of the laws and regulations so that your children and grandchildren (provided you are able to create such) can enjoy the same fisheries that you do? Lets lift the licensing and regulations and see just how long it takes the greedy, booger eatin' morons to desstroy the habitat and fish populations.

Yep, once again, Big Brother protecting the coutry from the ignorant and those that measure their self-worth by the businesses they own or the lack of size of certain appendages.

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:35am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 10:03am PDTReport Abuse

What planet do you come from orkneymoor it is not sport fishing that effects the amount of fish that has dwindled it is the corporate ships that are taking millions of metric tons. Sounds like your jealous! I also have a better understanding of what is going on in the fishing industry than you ever will having been a federal boarding officer in the Coast Guard for ten years so get a life it is obvious you do not have one. aholes your name suits you because you are the most ignorant with no real substance but I did notice you two like to talk about dicks alot maybe you two queers should get together.

Reply by nkilmer619 June 23, 2010 10:35am PDTReport Abuse

Mictour, for owning your own companies, you sure have poor grammar and punctuation. Ever hear of a period?

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 11:01am PDTReport Abuse

Is that the best you havenkilmer619. You all seem to get off the point of the story don't you, I love it.

Reply by nkilmer619 June 23, 2010 11:22am PDTReport Abuse

But you sure used great punctuation in your last post didn't you? lol

"By the way luis I own three companies what do you do live with your mother still I bet."

Looks like you were the one getting off topic buddy.

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 12:03pm PDTReport Abuse

Actually I love when people drift like the others, my original statement stands. But when they drift I have fun pissing them off. I also always punctuate it is just that sometimes the keys don't!
Have a nice day. I really mean that.

Reply by orkneymoor June 23, 2010 12:19pm PDTReport Abuse

Mictour, I arrest your kind every day. Those that think that the laws and regulations don't apply to them. Those that let their egos and attitudes drive their passion for conflict. You should be ashamed of what you posted, "a federal boarding officer in the Coast Guard for ten years " that does not make you an expert on much of anything.
I have been in law enforcement for over 22 years and am so employed now. I do enforce fish and wildlife laws and I think that gives me the upper hand in understanding why rules and regulations are in place, as well as understanding the egotistical, uneducated, excuse making, whining, non-law abiding people like yourself. I truly hope that you enjoy your day, attempting to "...have fun pissing them off. I also always punctuate it is just that sometimes the keys don't!" That sounds simple and pathetic. I truly hope that one day you might understand the big picture and you dearly need to get a life or enjoy the one you have. You sound so sad and lonely. I pitty you, I really do. Let me have an opportunity to catch you violating one day and I will smile as I take some of your money, some of your pride and hopefully some of your dignity. No worries about that though, you have no dignity, nor do you have a clue.

Reply by heather724 June 23, 2010 12:46pm PDTReport Abuse

Forgive my lack of fishing knowledge but what's the point of the license? Is seams odd to me that we require payment and an application for a fishing license just to catch a fish in the ocean but anyone can have a kid- no questions asked.

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 01:04pm PDTReport Abuse

Your a puppet orkneymoor I know a lot of fish and wildlife law officers and most are wanna be cops with egos. You think the new laws that charge for sport fishing in the ocean is generating revenue for that and not going to the coffers of government for other uses. ( Buy the way that was why Florida initiated not for enhancing salt water fishing but to bail them out!) Then you are not only the sad and lonely guy but a fool. For decades the courts would not allow it, until they got padded with judges that will bend to the will of the politicians. No where did I ever say that I don't buy my licenses, I just don't believe that the ocean should be marketed while companies like Gortons, ahnd the international fleets that rape our castline of fish.I have seen the devastation by the international community on our coasts. I have watched the east cast lose cod,flounder, mackral to name a few that were abundant and right at the shoreline in my time to nothing for 10 miles out.. So get in your little rowboat and go harass the people out there so you can feel important but to 90% of the true sportsman guys like you are a joke! If you did meet me out there with your attitude, you would not be happy. Your just a fool that thinks he is more important than you really are. For someone who claims 22 years as a fish and wildlife officer it is you that does not have a clue. I just would like to see families enjoy the true American way of life that we all had at one time before a buck was attached to it. As far as education goes I'll put my degrees against your community college mentality any day.
Have a nice day!

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 01:14pm PDTReport Abuse

Your right Heather it is a joke. The money used from hunting and fishing licenses can be used for other than what sportsman want by non sportsman. The Pitman-Robertson Act was unique all the money had to go to wildlife management, that is where orkneymoor gets paid wether he knows it or not. But the new laws are more like federal highway funds that never make it to the highway department.

Reply by luis santiago June 23, 2010 01:15pm PDTReport Abuse

Ohhhh look who's angry now, mr. "I gots me three biznesses" True American way of life? You don't know what a "true american way of life" is. You're just some punk hippie in his parents basement, claiming some intelligence; info you probably got from some pamphlet, who openly admits that you come here to piss people off. Get job... and a life ya hippie!

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 01:23pm PDTReport Abuse

I am not angry but you sound it by the way are you an illegal?

Reply by luis santiago June 23, 2010 01:27pm PDTReport Abuse

I think I should be asking you that question, considering your poor grammatical skills. Nice try McFly-hippie.

Reply by mictour June 23, 2010 03:46pm PDTReport Abuse

You want to talk about grammer Louis learn how to spell businesses, it is not biznesses. You have no intelligent input and you probably are an illegal. Buy the way do you even know what a hippie was,probably not. Just spewing to feel like your something you will never be intelligent.

Reply by orkneymoor June 23, 2010 03:48pm PDTReport Abuse

Heather, you are correct, anybody can have children (without a license), look at what mictour's parents did. Makes no sense to me, we end up paying for the children anyway, through other taxation though.

Unfortunately, mictour is again misinformed, or wrongly opinionated I am not paid through the Pitman-Robertson Act, nor does all the money from the Pitman-Robertson Act have to go to wildlife management.

"The Pittman-Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act authorizes the Secretary of the Interior to cooperate with the States, through their respective State fish and game departments, in wildlife-restoration projects. However, per statute, no money apportioned under this chapter to any state shall be expended until the state in question assents to the provisions of this chapter and has passed laws for the conservation of wildlife, which includes a prohibition against the diversion of license fees paid by hunters for any other purpose than the administration of said state's fish and game department. The Act also provides for grants for hunter education programs and a mechanism for a multi-state conservation grant program."

The point of this blog being the fact that the crew of the Citation was wrong and unlike mictour, they took it like men, admitted that they were wrong and didn't lay blame, call names or try to "piss" people off!

Reply by mikedelta9 June 25, 2010 07:59am PDTReport Abuse

jerry jerry jerry jerry......lmao

Reply by tralfaz June 23, 2010 12:47am PDTReport Abuse

OK, so he has the best "One I almost got" story...I'm sure the crew can't hear it enough

Reply by ddyoung June 25, 2010 02:34am PDTReport Abuse

Or.... "The one that didn't get away, but wait till you hear what really got away" story!

Reply by brian k weegan June 22, 2010 08:50pm PDTReport Abuse

You both need to learn how to spell. Loose means, "Not tight". So looser means, it is not tighter. Loser, is what you mean, and apparently what you both are from your lack of a good edumacation...lmao.

Reply by ddyoung June 22, 2010 09:56pm PDTReport Abuse

LOL If they guy was a bit "looser" with his money, he wouldn't have caused his team to "lose."
Well that's a big one for the "shit happens" catagory!!!

Reply by tarifo June 22, 2010 10:02pm PDTReport Abuse

So you're questioning two people's educations and calling them "losers" because they each incorrectly used one word? Because you've never in your entire life made a spelling or grammatical error, right? Grow up.

Reply by walt w June 23, 2010 12:36am PDTReport Abuse

Ya know, I was going to comment on what losers all ya all were for picking on each other like ya are then I realized if I did I be a hypocrite...so I won't....luuuuzzzerrrrs...HAHAHAHAHAHA

Reply by bb2dp June 23, 2010 02:57am PDTReport Abuse

Karma? You got that right. Killing for sport is barbaric. What ever happened to catch-and-release?

Reply by mhcy_nc2010 June 23, 2010 05:52am PDTReport Abuse

LOL If they guy was a bit "looser" with his money, he wouldn't have caused his team to "lose."
Well that's a big one for the "shit happens" catagory!!! - ddyoung

So he criticizes someones spelling of loser, then he goes and misspells category? What a fucking moron.

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:36am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by thisiscrazy June 24, 2010 06:02pm PDTReport Abuse

To mhcy_nc2010: Thanks for your ignorant, trashy, swear-filled rant. You just showed your age, maturity level and lack of education. *YOU* are what's wrong with this world. You kiss your mother with that mouth. Get an education!

Reply by ddyoung June 25, 2010 02:14am PDTReport Abuse

Why Thank You!! thisiscrazy - I didn't feel that it was worth the effort to reply before. For I didn't post to criticize, yet only give light (I thought in humor) to the corrections made by another, in a sentence that used both words!! Oh and by the way: they = "the" guy.... LOL

Reply by ron romano June 26, 2010 09:37am PDTReport Abuse

Aholes_r_you is a Cowboys fan. That explains his low level of intelligence.

Reply by teak507 June 22, 2010 09:40pm PDTReport Abuse

I think the captain should have checked for himself. Such a costly mistake.

Reply by michael tommy k June 23, 2010 02:12am PDTReport Abuse

The captain wouldn't know because he must have been with the team for sometime and for you to be with a fishing team you must be a fisherman. Nobody in the team would ever think he hasn't acquired a license, he might even be one of the best among them. Some unexplainable things happen sometimes... It's a mystery that's why it's good to be prayerful in life to avert disappointments and bad lucks. God cares!

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 03:58am PDTReport Abuse

God cares? LOL always some idiots like you out there spewing out god bs. I feel sorry for you people who have not grown up and believe any god would let millions of believers die for there faith against another band who believes in another god. Our world would be better without any of you ignorant god lovers. What happened to the grek and roman gods? They just went away or science explained why the sun seems to rise and set, that science explains why the wind blows etc. People only need there god because they don't know how to explain other things. Get with it. What was unexplained? The captain did not do his job and ensure everyone obeyed the rules, he was lax and suffered the consequences. He didn;t do his job. And more than likely this crew member is a regular guy barely able to keep gas in his car like so many of us now a days, was just hired on and may not have had the money. The rich owners should have made sure he had it and if not put up the money themselves to make sufre he had it. You people don't see homeless families, people doing crimes to get there kids milk? This isn't for all of you bbut some saying oh a lousey $15 or 30$. To some people that would destroy there budget. As crew your not a rich boat owner entering $10k tournaments, your working for a living on the guys $600K boat. And god obviously doesn't care and if there were an adult santa named god, i would expect him to be over looking after our troops, not watching the fishing tournament. Being we are at war with other god loving nut cases, it is pretty clear there is none. Yeah he has a plan for babies with aids or born addicted to crack and old ladies being raped and killed. You god loving losers need to be in the war and hope and pray he will show up and save you all. Darwin, evolution, look it up, science has earth is billions of years old, yet somehow you morons think it all started 5000 years ago, LOL LOL LOL. I pity you and your kind.

Reply by john pennington June 23, 2010 05:35am PDTReport Abuse

You are the one that I feel sorry for. Darwin and Evolution has no basis on fact. Actually they are more of a religion by definition. Science themselves have proven Evolution wrong. Science shows that there at one time was a world wide flood and that by FACT the sun shrinks at constant rate of 3ft per hour. Now if the math is done there is no way the Earth can be over 9000 years old cause the sun would burn it up. Same way with the dust on the moon falls at a constant rate. When we first went to the moon the had huge pads with legs cause if the Earth was billions of years old the dust would be thick but it was not. Before you start talking about theories that apparently you haven't studied maybe you need to read them as a whole and not in part. So parts are believable but as a whole it is impossible. God does exist but people make our own decisions and we pollute what God has ordained. This is why our country was so great cause we was founded on God, but because we have hardened our hearts and turned away from him is why the country is in the shape it is in. Oh and for fact we don't believe the world started 5000 years ago. If you study the time line approx 5000 years ago was the flood. the Earth was here about 2000 years prior to the flood. As far as saying a lousy 15 or 30 dollars well they were on a 600k + boat so I am sure someone on that boat or the captain himself had the money. For some people it might make things tight but come on please try to be realistic.

Reply by drdetroit June 23, 2010 06:55am PDTReport Abuse

Oh God does live, one true God! He gives you the right to your opinion, but that in and of its self does not make your right, correct, or even sane. You should try a simple thing to prove which of us is correct. When you are alone try this. Ask God to reveal himself to you. Pray with no format or circumstance like this. I do not know you God I don't know Jesus I don't know if the bible is yours, but if you do exist then please reveal yourself to me. Let me know what I do not know. Give me the faith to see you at work all around me. Teach me love me recreate me. Then hold onto your sox. Because the true and living God will show up. Maybe not in the next moment. But somewhere down the road God will show up and you can trace your life back to this simple prayer. It will be as plain and simple as the nose on your face. God loves you God cares God is in control. It is not my God against your god. There is one God and He wants you to humble yourself and pray. If you're too full of yourself to pray don't worry, myself and many others are praying for you right now. You see I am not in need of something to believe in you are. I am just left with no other choice but the fact God showed up in my life and if you would take the time to see if there is a God or if science is all there is you might see what we see. It is plain and simple God is such that He allows you to make your plans shout them from the roof tops complain about His followers and cry. He will even let you die apart from Him if that is your wish. But if your wish is to know him, then He will draw close to you. He will bless you to no end. He will reveal His plan for your life. You will see we are not shallow, we have just found what we were missing that has made us complete. Faith in the one true living God that loves you more than you may ever know. May God bless you in every way shape & form. May He build you up into the person He created you to be. God bless you!

Reply by stewc June 23, 2010 07:16am PDTReport Abuse

To john pennington, have you ever heard carbon dating or you probably don't believe that dinosaurs existed, and as for moon-dust argument no longer useful because amount of dust coming annually on to the earth/moon is much smaller than the amount estimated.

Reply by dallaslars June 23, 2010 07:26am PDTReport Abuse

To john pennington

Darwin and Evolution have plenty of basis in fact. Just because there was a big flood at one time proves nothing. Many major religions have a flood story, so it's not unlikely there really was a big flood at one time. (Not necessarily of the epic proportions in religious texts, but pretty darn big to the survivors).

Your observation of the moon dust is an old argument that was debunked decades ago. The astronauts only SANK in it a few inches. If you walk down the beach and only sink 3 inches into the sand, that doesn't mean the sand is only 3 inches deep!

As far as the sun shrinking, you leave out a VERY important detail: The change in the sun's diameter is cyclical - predicted to be on a 76 year cycle - in which it shrinks and GROWS. Your analysis is akin to predicting that the mountain tops were covered with water (and therefore the Great Flood occurred) a certain number of years ago due to the fact that the tide went out and the level of the ocean dropped one foot at your vantage point.

Amazingly (or perhaps not so amazingly), YOU are the one that has not fully studied the theories you criticize. You are blinded by your belief and only internalize the bits and pieces that support your foregone conclusion.

I don't know what country you live in. I live in the USA and OUR country was NOT founded on God. The Islamic Republic of Iran was founded on God (Allah). Dandy society they have, eh?

Reply by john pennington June 23, 2010 07:26am PDTReport Abuse

yes I have heard of carbon dating and it has been proven wrong by science themselves. Because carbon does not fall at even amounts on earth. They have buried bones for 5 years and carbon dated them and they show they are hundred of years old. Yet science still teaches these things as fact. Yes I do believe dinosaurs exist. They are even in the Bible. They still do today just not in the large form they did back then. One is because4 and science has proven this that at one time there was a water layer around the Earth and gave a greenhouse effect and that is why these animals grew larger and people live to be much older and was also taller. So you should really study up on your science and history. Like the other guy said. People that don't believe in God just try him. You say there is no God but yet you can't prove it because you have not looked for him. See I look for evidence why evolution is wrong. There is but one God and he died for everyone and rose again and defected death so that we may have life and more abundantly. I challenge you to test the theory and ask God to show himself to you. Ask him to let the Holy Ghost fall on you and I know you will never be the same.

Reply by lostinnc June 23, 2010 07:32am PDTReport Abuse

Before a charter or event ask to see the proper licenses, it is SOP for anything else, construction, real estate, driving, concrete...
Don't expect what you don't inspect, Should go for Boat owners ant Captains too.

Reply by john pennington June 23, 2010 07:33am PDTReport Abuse

Our country was founded on God the one true and living God. You see all other Gods have come and gone but yet Jesus is still God today. The funny thing is that Islamic believe and use the Koran which quotes from the bible but they say they don't believe in the bible. Well it is know any book that quotes from another book that book has precedent over that book so anything in the first book that contradicts the book being quoted from is not true. You see you post the science that the sun shrinks but then expands every 76 years. that would even make the sun larger than I had originally said which proves my theory even more.

Reply by dallaslars June 23, 2010 07:43am PDTReport Abuse

john pennington,

I honestly don't know how you manage to get through a day with such fuzzy logic! You say the Koran quotes the Bible so the Bible takes precedent. By that logic you should be Jewish and still slaughter goats.

Saying the sun shrinks and expands on a 76 year cycle "proves" the sun was even bigger than you said is like saying the fact that the tide comes in and goes out somehow "proves" that the Great Flood covered the mountain tops.

It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation with someone who spews such nonsense!

Reply by el shizz June 23, 2010 07:46am PDTReport Abuse

fishing talk onlee plz duds

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:37am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by lostinnc June 23, 2010 10:45am PDTReport Abuse

Sheeezzzee A_R_you is that the only post you have? Your profile picture is the poster for egos, narcissism, and the clueless, bigger is better world you are so quick to condemn.
According to the FAO, there were 38 million commercial and subsistence FISHERMEN and fish farmers in 2002, more than triple the number in 1970. 80% ? You truly are an inbred moron and should not be allowed to reproduce (even if it is with you family).
So SET back WHILEST you get you Mom and Dad, or Aunt and Uncle (I'm sure they are the same) to read these smart Elic comments back to you...
Plain and simple you are...thought out, not in this lifetime.

Idiot

Reply by mikedelta9 June 27, 2010 08:01am PDTReport Abuse

i agree with you lostinnc. since mr. aholes r us met 80% of the u.s. what and idiot. i think 80% of his relationships have been with his inbred mom. lmao. dont cry mr. ahole just go touch your sister itll make you forget. ha ha and ha and one more for the road ha.

Reply by ddyoung June 22, 2010 09:57pm PDTReport Abuse

That's a good one: made into chum!!!! LMAO

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:37am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by ddyoung June 25, 2010 02:43am PDTReport Abuse

I've got a long rod... but I use a short pole, because it gives me better leverage, especially when it's deep and I have to short stroke.

Reply by ron romano June 26, 2010 09:42am PDTReport Abuse

Ahole_r_you is a Cowboys fan. No wonder he is such a idiot.

Ahole is just frustrated he can't get his hands wrapped around the blank of Tony Romo's short rod. It's obvious.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:04am PDTReport Abuse

What grounds would they have, they read and signed documents that they would abide be certain rules, they did not do so, let a detail slip, if anything they should be sued for not abiding by the rules and killing a rare fish for nothing and illegally. They should be banned from competing for years. And they are full of shit, they didn't file because they have no case but try to act like they are so giving and forgiving, lol. Kid they broke the rules, one guy or everyone, they as a team screwed up. And who was it that was speculating a lawsuit from an obvious loser of a case. No lawyer on the planet would take that on contingency is why. Pay them straight up cash and they will sue for anything. What possible grounds for a case could they possibly make. It is clearly stated what the requirements are and they failed to meet them. You can't put this off on the crew member, it is the captains job and responsibility.

Reply by mirandagc91 June 23, 2010 04:59am PDTReport Abuse

the grounds they could have sued on was the fact that the mate got licensed before the weigh in, in the rules it just says they have to have one but not when it has to be purchased and would have claimed discrepancy of whether or not he was licensed with the state , and there actually was a local lawyer prepared to take the case.

Reply by lawguy June 23, 2010 06:10am PDTReport Abuse

Technically the rest of the team could have sued the guy without the license for negligence, but as was pointed out above there's no point to suing someone that doesn't have any money. Sure they'd win the judgment, but he could easily get it discharged through bankruptcy.

Reply by lostinnc June 23, 2010 07:27am PDTReport Abuse

The license is a fishing license, not a weighing license, So when hearing he had the winning catch he made fast pace get his license online, again after the fish had been landed. Think this license would have been gotten if they weren't the daily winner?

From the BRBM rule number 9. FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS

HMS Permits
All boats must have one of the following valid permits - HMS Angling (recreational), HMS Charter/Headboat, or Atlantic Tunas General Category Permit (commercial). Permits will be valid from the date of issuance through December 31, 2010. Permits must be on board the vessel when engaged in fishing. The Big Rock Tournament is a registered recreational HMS tournament. For more information - www.nmfspermits.com or (888)-872-8862.


North Carolina Recreational Fishing License: As of 01/01/2009
The North Carolina Division of Marine Fisheries will require a recreational fishing license for anyone participating in fishing aboard a vessel. This includes a license for the captain, the mate and the anglers. These individual licenses can be purchased on a 10-day, annual or lifetime basis.
252-726-7021. http://www.ncfisheries.net/recreational/NCCRFL.htm

20. RULES COMMITTEE - Any boat breaching any of the above Tournament Rules may be disqualified, except as previously stated. Decisions of the Rules Committee and Board of Directors are final.


Participant is responsible for knowing all state and federal regulations or any recent changes that may occur.

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:37am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by surge June 23, 2010 03:33am PDTReport Abuse

Yeah, they didn't think it would be them catching the big fish, so minor details were deemed waste of effort and money - much like the BP did. Make a note of these guys, in case they apply for a digging permission if they all decide to get into that business

Reply by tpeluso84 June 23, 2010 07:50am PDTReport Abuse

The Citation may not have gotten a tourn. record, or won, but they have made enough noise and no one will forget their almost 900 lb. marlin.

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:37am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by aaa111 June 22, 2010 08:50pm PDTReport Abuse

socrates?

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:09am PDTReport Abuse

Yeah the fish dragged from its natural habit, not to feed men woman and children but to bolster the pride of a bunch of rich morons. Yeah they fish hanging there dead really won that one. Another 1st year college boy trying to sound profound, yet the rest of the world see's him for a pompous jackass with nothing to say, may your comments define your life. By the way victory is often simple and obvious and if this is all these men have that they define there life by it they are as big of losers as you are. Raise a family, protect your country, be a man, give to your community and those less fortunate. These are things that define ones life and manhood, not catching a big fish and losing due to ignorance and failing to follow rules or pay attention to obviois details.

Reply by bob owens June 23, 2010 02:22am PDTReport Abuse

I would just use him as bait for the next catch. He was probably some illegal Mexican anyway.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:14am PDTReport Abuse

Believe in people or a mans word and you are sur to be disappointed and look like a fool, or lose a million on a silly fishing play date. Mankind is falling apart. Obvious you have not been robbed, had your sister raped, car stolen, lent money and been screwed over. man in general is still just an animal that likes to think how evolved we are. When was the last time there was not a war going on somewhere. Why do we need cops if you can trust a mans word? You can't trust teachers to not be banging students, can't trust the government to tell you what is really going on. Trust is a joke. The only thing you can trust is your Glock

Reply by mikedelta9 June 23, 2010 06:07am PDTReport Abuse

man you really care. is what your name should be. ha ha and wait a second ha

Reply by cobraaddict June 23, 2010 07:04am PDTReport Abuse

I agree with you mikedelta, for someone with a screen name like that must really care, since he has so many coments to everyone.

Reply by cobraaddict June 23, 2010 07:36am PDTReport Abuse

and to you hartzell, you have to believe in a man's word, because when yopu break that you don't have anything left to show your honor

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:39am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by tpeluso84 June 23, 2010 07:54am PDTReport Abuse

Keep checking the Big Rocks website for updates

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:39am PDTReport Abuse

I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by aaa111 June 22, 2010 08:53pm PDTReport Abuse

great, a babbling idiot

Reply by cainab June 22, 2010 09:03pm PDTReport Abuse

Sure you are some punk idiot 20 year old idiot that has served other than himself his whole life. Find me or any other active military and talk your trash and I PROMISE I will break you neck quick. Give respect where it is due or sir down. POS

Reply by mariae June 22, 2010 10:42pm PDTReport Abuse

Cainab - please be nice-- two wrongs do not make a right. :)
I agree with what you had to say about the Colonel. His crew member made a mistake and maybe he trusted them too much. However, forgiveness is greater than anything else.
The Colonel should see if he can add his catch to the Guinness World book of Records.
If may not be the biggest catch in the competition; however I bet its the Biggest catch in town.

Oh Cainab, If I read right -- you are in the active military. Therefore, I would like to thank you and all our Veterans for a Job Well done in helping take care of us. Thank you !

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:22am PDTReport Abuse

Respect what? A colonel, so he says that did not do his job? He of all on board should have known and taken it upon hisself to insure his unit was ready and prepared. he failed the other men, not the other way around. An NCO in the military is given an article 15 for his squad or platoon not being ready and uniformed and equipted as called for, yet the college educated officers bound around like pompous idiots and take all the glory yet never actually in the guns site, calling in orders from the rear. You are no military vet or you would know and see that. Big internet talk there arnold, break you neck, lol Grow up little one.He failed his unit by not ensuring compliance to the rules not one of the victims for trusting to much. No military leader trusts, he leads by example, follows the rules and ensures everyone else does as well, he has inspections and makes sure his unit is ready, you dont trust someone brought the bait or the bullets./ And its not a world record kid it is a record for that particular tournament, hardly news worthy if it weren't for the loss of the prize money due to an idiot crew member and an even bigger idiot captain and team leader

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:45am PDTReport Abuse

Who was this Colonel loyal too by the way and if you were actice duty you know there is no such thing as trust. They lock up all weapons as soon as you leave the range, they issue you keys to viechles, you don't keep one in your pocket. The military has nothing to do with trust and having that quality or instinct does not make you a better soldier, quite the opposite in fact. You check every fact and figure, statement and action yourself or delegate the responsibility, if done that route, that does not excuse you from responisibility as it is his job to ensure the delegated personnel have done as required by him. I am a vet and understand your pride but don't be so blindly stupid about it kid. Who even said he was ever an active duty Colonel and not some joke reservist Colonel. Huge difference, same with the so called national gaurd which has no business calling itselfs a military branch like the Army Navy Airforce or Marines. Every real active duty soldier knows and feels that way as well. It made my stomach turn to hear all those whiny little kunts crying that they were paid for years without any responsibility or real purpose other than there monthly drinking parties, when they finally got called active and had to do a job real soldiers had been doing all along.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:45am PDTReport Abuse

Who was this Colonel loyal too by the way and if you were actice duty you know there is no such thing as trust. They lock up all weapons as soon as you leave the range, they issue you keys to viechles, you don't keep one in your pocket. The military has nothing to do with trust and having that quality or instinct does not make you a better soldier, quite the opposite in fact. You check every fact and figure, statement and action yourself or delegate the responsibility, if done that route, that does not excuse you from responisibility as it is his job to ensure the delegated personnel have done as required by him. I am a vet and understand your pride but don't be so blindly stupid about it kid. Who even said he was ever an active duty Colonel and not some joke reservist Colonel. Huge difference, same with the so called national gaurd which has no business calling itselfs a military branch like the Army Navy Airforce or Marines. Every real active duty soldier knows and feels that way as well. It made my stomach turn to hear all those whiny little kunts crying that they were paid for years without any responsibility or real purpose other than there monthly drinking parties, when they finally got called active and had to do a job real soldiers had been doing all along.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:45am PDTReport Abuse

Who was this Colonel loyal too by the way and if you were actice duty you know there is no such thing as trust. They lock up all weapons as soon as you leave the range, they issue you keys to viechles, you don't keep one in your pocket. The military has nothing to do with trust and having that quality or instinct does not make you a better soldier, quite the opposite in fact. You check every fact and figure, statement and action yourself or delegate the responsibility, if done that route, that does not excuse you from responisibility as it is his job to ensure the delegated personnel have done as required by him. I am a vet and understand your pride but don't be so blindly stupid about it kid. Who even said he was ever an active duty Colonel and not some joke reservist Colonel. Huge difference, same with the so called national gaurd which has no business calling itselfs a military branch like the Army Navy Airforce or Marines. Every real active duty soldier knows and feels that way as well. It made my stomach turn to hear all those whiny little kunts crying that they were paid for years without any responsibility or real purpose other than there monthly drinking parties, when they finally got called active and had to do a job real soldiers had been doing all along.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:45am PDTReport Abuse

Who was this Colonel loyal too by the way and if you were actice duty you know there is no such thing as trust. They lock up all weapons as soon as you leave the range, they issue you keys to viechles, you don't keep one in your pocket. The military has nothing to do with trust and having that quality or instinct does not make you a better soldier, quite the opposite in fact. You check every fact and figure, statement and action yourself or delegate the responsibility, if done that route, that does not excuse you from responisibility as it is his job to ensure the delegated personnel have done as required by him. I am a vet and understand your pride but don't be so blindly stupid about it kid. Who even said he was ever an active duty Colonel and not some joke reservist Colonel. Huge difference, same with the so called national gaurd which has no business calling itselfs a military branch like the Army Navy Airforce or Marines. Every real active duty soldier knows and feels that way as well. It made my stomach turn to hear all those whiny little kunts crying that they were paid for years without any responsibility or real purpose other than there monthly drinking parties, when they finally got called active and had to do a job real soldiers had been doing all along.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:45am PDTReport Abuse

Who was this Colonel loyal too by the way and if you were actice duty you know there is no such thing as trust. They lock up all weapons as soon as you leave the range, they issue you keys to viechles, you don't keep one in your pocket. The military has nothing to do with trust and having that quality or instinct does not make you a better soldier, quite the opposite in fact. You check every fact and figure, statement and action yourself or delegate the responsibility, if done that route, that does not excuse you from responisibility as it is his job to ensure the delegated personnel have done as required by him. I am a vet and understand your pride but don't be so blindly stupid about it kid. Who even said he was ever an active duty Colonel and not some joke reservist Colonel. Huge difference, same with the so called national gaurd which has no business calling itselfs a military branch like the Army Navy Airforce or Marines. Every real active duty soldier knows and feels that way as well. It made my stomach turn to hear all those whiny little kunts crying that they were paid for years without any responsibility or real purpose other than there monthly drinking parties, when they finally got called active and had to do a job real soldiers had been doing all along.

Reply by mikedelta9 June 23, 2010 06:26am PDTReport Abuse

um and the whotevencares seminar is session, please can we all silence. thank you, now speak your greatness. you only get one this time. ha

Reply by cobraaddict June 23, 2010 07:09am PDTReport Abuse

lol mikedelta, I think that whotevencares is a arm chair vet. I also agreed with your other coment earlier

Reply by bigmarlin June 22, 2010 08:07pm PDTReport Abuse

Well in little league, the coach, me, had copies of each birth certificate. We were not even playing for $1M, just a $5 trophy. Maybe a better manager would have had copies????

Reply by tralfaz June 22, 2010 10:51pm PDTReport Abuse

I don't know how your state runs things, but in most, those funds from hunting and fishing licenses go straight to parks and recreations and such.

Reply by mccabecj June 22, 2010 11:42pm PDTReport Abuse

big deal, what's your point...how does anyone know where the money really goes anyway, they just tell people that shit...show me the receipts and the evidence.

Reply by lazy June 23, 2010 12:09am PDTReport Abuse

if he was paid to work and didnt catch the fish he dosent need a fishing license

Reply by surge June 23, 2010 03:46am PDTReport Abuse

... quite like the immigration 'rules' that are aimed at squezing as much money from a wannabe ciitizen's labor as possible for years and years - not about qualifications, not about ability to get a job - for just a piece of paper. Though it is nice to know there is someone in a democracy that doesn't hate the government, at least some other times.

Reply by whotevencares June 23, 2010 04:35am PDTReport Abuse

It does not matter if he was paid to work, this is a team tournament and clearly the rules said all must be licensed, duhhhh. Think before you run your hole. And yeah to the other self important jackass, the governement should send you all the bills and receipts to all it's spending to make sure you are passified. The money goes to protecting the rules, law enforcement on the water, parks and rec's etc as the other man stated. And what difference does it make, it is a rule and you have to follow em or pay the consequences or take over and install your own better more fair government. You think a $30 license fee is the worst we are being screwed when the federal income tax was a temporary measure for the war effort that never expired? Have a tea party like in Boston if you think it's unfair, just better have military grade group of personnel and equipment as most cities police forces have illegally. We are supposed to have no taxation without representation. Do they rich douchebag suits on capital hill really represent the common working man? There has not been a law written in more than 200 years that doesn't tell you what you can't do since the bill of rights which has been destroyed by amendments. Really people, you can be fined and jailed in areas for your lawn being to tall. Now suddenly in the name of keeping us free, we are now back to 1940's germany, show us your papers or we wisk you off till we know who you are. Now fighting in afganistan same as the russians for the same reasons but politics and not common sense made us help the enemy of our enemy, not just fight the real bad guys. Serves us right for being so stupid and paranoid. Karma, what comes around, goes around.

Reply by mhcy_nc2010 June 23, 2010 05:23am PDTReport Abuse

The rules have nothing to do with the government, now had the Wildlife Resource Commision stopped the boat on the way back in then they would have fined him and made them release the fish. The work this guy was doing included baiting the rigs, casting out the troll lines, reeling in the lines to check the bait and re-baiting. Sorry guys but if you plop a rod in the water you are fishing. and lazy, even if he didn't need a license under NC State law, which he in fact did, the rules of the tournament specifically state that all captains, mates, and anglers must possess a NC coastal recreational fishing license. NC has strict laws that regulate how fish can be caught in the state, and thank God for that. The revenue from the licenses help pay the WRC officers that enforce out fishing laws, and help keep our waters clean. Yes the waters have been around for a million years, but if we let everyone do as they damn well please then they would be a cess pool and dickheads like mccabecj would just have another reason to wake up in the morning and bitch about the government. The anglers in NC respect the WRC and rules and regs that govern our coastal waters. So you enjoy all your "freedom" to do whatever you want in your coastal waters, I think I'll be ok paying 15 dollars a year to fish and actually be able to fish, and swim in the waters. Just don't come to NC when there are no fish let in your waters and the water looks like something that can out of a septic tank.

Reply by splandoo June 22, 2010 08:07pm PDTReport Abuse

I am sure it was named in the positive aspect, as in, reward, trophy, etc., vs. the negative "citation", i.e; boo boo or 'write up'...yes, I agree, how Ironic and tragic! wow...

Reply by aholes_r_you June 23, 2010 09:44am PDTReport Abuse

@WHotevenCares. You are Queer man! Go run and tallay wanky now. I think and 80% of America thinks so too, you fishermen are really egotistical little troubled youths all about whose got the best Boat, Powerful engine and Biggest Dicnk. Plain and simple and thought out. Oh and let's not forget the Longest ROD. WhaDaYa think of that? And I'll set back and listen whilest holding my Middle Finger at the PC Screen for all you smart elic A(_!_)'s...OK?

Reply by chadhutchy July 4, 2010 11:26am PDTReport Abuse

Aholes_r_you,

You are not a sportmem, nor a writer, so what are you? You stated, that you are holding your middle finger at the, "personal computer screen". After reading your coments and the amazing thought you put into it, I highly doubt that you upset anyone. You call people assholes while sitting alone giving the computer the middle finger and claim that you are listening as you set back (or do you mean sitting back while reading the forum?). Are you a leisure reader on topics involving outdoor sports? You seem to take an interest in the topic, since you posted a reply and chances are you will check back on your post to see if someone replied to it. If you are reading this posting, that I've put here, then you have something in common with the outdoors. You are the prey and we, the society of sportmen, are your predator. You could either, take a biology course or go observe the nature of wildlife, to understand what I mean by the rechecking of this post. If that wasn't an evolutionary trait found in wildlife (humans included), we (the human population) would not be here. Also, you seem educated enough to answer this, why do we have sharp teeth?

Respectfully,
Chad Arlo Hutchinson
of Columbus, MI.
Hunter & Fisherman.