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Indiana kayak fishermen surprised by giant python

By: Pete Thomas, GrindTV.com

When Dave Neal set out for a day of kayak-fishing recently on Indiana's Wildcat Creek, he could not have imagined the surprise awaiting around a bend, in the form of an enormous Burmese python coiled against the base of a tree.

When the 11-foot reptile began slithering up the bank, a fishing expedition with two friends became a hunting expedition. "I didn't know what to think -- you just don't see this kind of thing in Indiana," Neal told the Journal & Courier newspaper.

Neal, with his cellphone, called the state's Department of Natural Resources while his group tried to keep tabs on the fleeing snake. This was important because Burmese pythons, which are native to parts of Asia, certainly do not belong in Indiana and are a potential threat to children and pets.

Neal recalled that there had been small children playing nearby.

When DNR conservation officer Josh Schoon arrived on the scene, a decision was made to kill the cornered python, which presumably was a pet that outgrew its owner and was turned loose in the wilderness.

The officer wanted to phone for a rescue team but the snake had led the group to an area in which there was no cellphone service. Burmese pythons, Schoon said, can be aggressive and kill they prey by constricting, or squeezing it to death. The snakes can reach nearly 20 feet in length.

Schoon dispatched the animal with three well-placed shots and afterward told Neal and his friends it was theirs. The snake's hide is now stretched on a board at the home of Terry Linback, Neal's brother-in-law, who was part of the expedition.

Said Neal of the python: "I ain't never seen anything that big in the wild before ... it's kind of cute, though."

-- Image courtesy of the Indiana Department of Natural Resources

 

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mick lea

Posted by mick lea September 4, 2010 04:53pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Can't believe these assholes shot the snake instead of having it relocated. Sure as hell wouldn't want to get pulled over by any cops in that area either. If they they think like the so called conservation officer; I'd probably get shot for a parking violation near a where children were once sited.

phil medlock

Reply by phil medlock September 4, 2010 08:54pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree with not killiing the snake. if it was a dog would they have shot it or just captured it. Its obious that these men had no idea what a great snake they found or what to do. The officer who shot the snake should have waited to get someone who knew anything about animals. They can be great pets to the right people just as dogs and cats in the wrong hands the animal suffers. Im not one of those rights people just a person with common sense there should be a test out there and if you can pass it you are limited to your outside time with the real world. I do agree with the fact that not just anyone should have the right to own or buy a snake or exotic animal.

mary sullivan perkins

Reply by mary sullivan perkins September 4, 2010 09:54pm PDTReport Abuse

you dont think that snake wouldnt kill you or a child,they need to be out lawed in THE UNITED STATES!!!

madhatter1976

Reply by madhatter1976 September 5, 2010 06:25am PDTReport Abuse

@mary sullivan perkins. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're letting your phobia of snakes do the talking, not common sense.

People like you are the reason so many idiotic and pointless laws are put in place. Instead we should put laws against stupid people breeding.

roark02

Reply by roark02 September 6, 2010 04:16pm PDTReport Abuse

dude the animal was
♦ out of its natural habitat
♦ most likely stressed out of its mind cause its not in its habitat
♦dangerous to children
♦ they had NO way to catch it alive without a tranquilizer
♦also it would take a long time for the game warden to find them since they were OUTSIDE cell phone range
♦and during that long time most likely someone would be hurt

roark02

Reply by roark02 September 6, 2010 04:17pm PDTReport Abuse

you should be able to buy HARMLESS snakes only

thomas budd

Posted by thomas budd September 4, 2010 05:09pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

to mick lea,,,, where do you propose to relocate a creature that is not native to this continent,nor native to this hemisphere???? oh ,,i know,,lets send it to florida,,where they are already killing these NONNATIVE species. you should learn about what you speak about before you end up looking like a fool. of course if a snake like this ate your "poor little fluffy dog " i bet you would be the first screaming to dfw about LETS KILL THIS SNAKE

fluffypup05

Reply by fluffypup05 September 4, 2010 06:25pm PDTReport Abuse

There are always zoo's or rescues for animals like this. I work closely with rescues for tigers, alligators, bears and other animals like them. The point is there are other options other than killing it and displaying it in your living room.

francois french

Reply by francois french September 4, 2010 09:45pm PDTReport Abuse

Killing the snake is justified because its wild and non native to the habitat so it poses a danger to the other species and to people that it might consider as prey. More so, the burmese python is not an endangered species, there's plenty from where they came from so the I think the officer knows what he was doing..

fluffypup05

Reply by fluffypup05 September 5, 2010 06:10am PDTReport Abuse

Rescues are not only for endangered animals (there are plenty of pit bull rescues for example). Shooting something dead is the last thing an officer is suppose to do when there are ABSOLUTELY no other options and lives are in immediate danger, which in this case they weren't. Pretty sure the guys just wanted to do something 'cool' and that's why the skin is now on the wall like a trophy.

paul oneal

Posted by paul oneal September 4, 2010 05:45pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

the illegal exotic animal trade is responsible for this. you have people who buy these snakes when they are babies, and when they grow too big to handle they let them loose in the wild. with no natural predators, they grow like wildfire.

smarterthanyou2

Reply by smarterthanyou2 September 9, 2010 09:09am PDTReport Abuse

till winter then they die this was in Iliinois woulda froze to death in a month or two

speedyquad

Posted by speedyquad September 4, 2010 06:30pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

there are a number of zoo's that would have taken the snake, or any herpetologist...snakes are not bad, they aren't cold blooded, man hungry killers. the snake would not have survived an indiana winter anway.

as far as snakes as pets go, they actually make good pets, not necessarily ones that get this large though.

and who was the proofreader of this article, they need to be retrained.

afterthegoldrushes

Reply by afterthegoldrushes September 5, 2010 02:22pm PDTReport Abuse

Actually, there was an experiment where a team traveled from the South on up to New York City to investigate whether a lage snake such as the Burmese Python could survive a winter there. They decided that if the animal could find a cave or an underground area to hide in, it could survive....they do survive. This snake may have been there for years considering how huge it was.

Also, more like 'trained' period. He couldn't have finished a college level English class with the above article. The writer is telling us what to think instead of showing us the facts.

The snake wasn't a criminal suspect, though the story makes it out like the snake somehow was. It was simply trying to get away because it knew they were going to kill it, which they ended up doing.

"Neal, with his cellphone, called the state's Department of Natural Resources while his group tried to keep tabs on the fleeing snake. This was important because Burmese pythons, which are native to parts of Asia, certainly do not belong in Indiana and are a potential threat to children and pets.

Neal recalled that there had been small children playing nearby."

It sounds as if Neal is perhaps lying.

The jewel though is "awaiting around a bend" from the first sentence. Are you sure the snake wasn't actually awaiting execution?

firehawk1

Posted by firehawk1 September 4, 2010 09:26pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

Killings is all these so called Authorities know how to do now days. The Police here in Bossier City Louisiana shot and killed a Beautiful Puma sitting in a tree instead of letting the Game Warden Tranquilize it and relocate it back to the wild. As for the snake, I watched a show on Cops were two ordinary Police officers caught a 14 foot Python and relocated it. By the way Pythons and Boa's are not agressive snakes. I've raised both for over 15 years, and without snakes the world would be over run with rodents like Rats and Mice spreading all types of Disease. It's amazing how many Ignorant people still live in this World.

roark02

Reply by roark02 September 6, 2010 04:15pm PDTReport Abuse

dude the animal was
♦ out of its natural habitat
♦ most likely stressed out of its mind cause its not in its habitat
♦dangerous to children
♦ they had NO way to catch it alive without a tranquilizer
♦also it would take a long time for the game warden to find them since they were OUTSIDE cell phone range
♦and during that long time most likely someone would be hurt

bigjon peters

Posted by bigjon peters September 4, 2010 10:22pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I agree the killing of the animal was un called for they had more then that option to look into b4 killing it was the option yes I realize its not native to the states but its also not the snakes fault it was there to begin with punish the person who let it go not the snake capturing it and contacting a zoo or something of that nature sooo many other options

roark02

Reply by roark02 September 6, 2010 04:15pm PDTReport Abuse

dude the animal was
♦ out of its natural habitat
♦ most likely stressed out of its mind cause its not in its habitat
♦dangerous to children
♦ they had NO way to catch it alive without a tranquilizer
♦also it would take a long time for the game warden to find them since they were OUTSIDE cell phone range
♦and during that long time most likely someone would be hurt

firehawk1

Posted by firehawk1 September 5, 2010 09:05am PDTReply | Report Abuse

A snake that size would have sold for anywhere between $2,500.00 and $5,000.00 Alive. I hope those three Idiots enjoy their Snake skin. What a waste. God loves Ignorant people!

mike otkins

Posted by mike otkins September 5, 2010 03:21pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

BAR-B-QUE.....TASTES LIKE CHICKEN.....

rodrick givens

Posted by rodrick givens September 5, 2010 04:11pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

This is an epidemic. These same snakes have populated the everglades to the sum of over 100000.... and along with that they are migrating.. That is the reason why it was found in Indiana ( nothing near its regular habitat.) The choice was made to kill it and that was the correct one. So what happens when that innocent snake gets ahold of your dog... better yet your young child. I am sure you will be saying we should exterminate every snake you see then. I think before you protest the extermination of this snake do a little research about that creature and you will find it doesn't belong there at all. For those of you with these idiotic comments.. you should take a minute to read "paul oneals" comments. That sums it all up.

roark02

Reply by roark02 September 6, 2010 04:10pm PDTReport Abuse

You are right and also it probably looks good on the living room wall

raylan givens

Posted by raylan givens September 5, 2010 05:23pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I like how everybody disagrees and calls each other fools. That is entertainment to me. Keep up the great work!

roark02

Posted by roark02 September 6, 2010 04:09pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

NICE HUNTING lol even though you found it in the wrong place

wwinnrr

Posted by wwinnrr September 6, 2010 09:17pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

The golden rule of finding a snake like this is shoot, shovel and shut up. that way the dnr can't fine you for killing a rattle snake that just killed your dog or a python that may kill your 2 year old. I hope snake skin jackets and boots make a huge come back.

cal lamoreaux

Posted by cal lamoreaux September 7, 2010 06:28am PDTReply | Report Abuse

These snakes are a serious problem in Florida and naturalists and nature lovers hope, probably vainly, to exterminate them there.

darren van winkle

Posted by darren van winkle September 8, 2010 11:17pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

I get it....redneck buy snake at pet store...redneck release snake because redneck can't take care of snake...redneck kill snake...obviously it was the snake's fault it was in unnatural habitat....unbelievable how stupid we have become.

wildbill77

Posted by wildbill77 September 8, 2010 11:36pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

you guys are puss for not trying to catch it. it would have died in the winter anyway.

wildbill77

Posted by wildbill77 September 8, 2010 11:40pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

by the way if you catch a snake alive it wow thats takes balls,, your just three pussy holding a dead snake

smarterthanyou2

Posted by smarterthanyou2 September 9, 2010 09:07am PDTReply | Report Abuse

"3 well placed shots"? was it barney fife or something shoulda been dead with 1 well placed shot!
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kieshia richardson

Posted by kieshia richardson September 9, 2010 12:27pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

THE BASTARDS KILLED THE POOR GUY! I can't believe they killed that gorgeous python! And that makes me so mad that the owner didn't do his fucking homework before getting the snake! Assholes! I'm looking at my own python now and I couldn't even dream of putting her in that danger. That was a 11ft Burmese Python! Am I the only one that thinks that's bad ass? If I had a big enough tank I would've taken it damn! lol. They killed that poor snake, he didn't even ask to be captivated in the first place! If the owner was an idiot and didn't research the snake before hand he could've easily found someone with more knowledge about it! Not set it free in a habitat it doesn't belong in! Especially since it's not a little corn snake or something it's 11 ft. Python that has the ability to kill whatever he wants! I'm sure the neighbors don't want their cats and dogs killed by a snake! The Burmese Python can get up to 7 feet or even larger with one year of age. In the wild the average is 12 ft. full grown but it's possible for them to get even bigger! So people please research before you think about adopting any species! Not just snakes, all animals!

Kiwi

rose shoafstall young

Posted by rose shoafstall young September 12, 2010 05:53am PDTReply | Report Abuse

Wasn't there a zoo that would have liked to have this snake?

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