Now, it seems, the hunter has become the hunted. Her story, which played out over two chaotic hours on Lake Moultrie in South Carolina, made national headlines and morning and evening news shows. They found it remarkable that a woman who stands just 5 feet 5 and weighs only 120 pounds could wrangle such a mammoth beast.
Afterward, however, some people became outraged by the methods used to dispatch the great reptile: baited fishing lines, followed by harpoons, a muzzle snare, shots from a .22-caliber weapon and, ultimately, a knife jab to the spinal cord.
"This woman should be in jail, not on TV," was among the tamer comments posted beneath a story on Carolinalive.com.
"They tortured that alligator for hours. That's just plain sick," a Bostonherald.com reader chimed in.
The hunter, who is from Massachusetts and received help from her husband and a guide, defended her actions and correctly stated that hunting of gators is legal in South Carolina and a limited seasonal hunt is how the state's wildlife agency keeps their numbers in check.
"I enjoy nature and animals a great deal and I understand why there is a reason for hunting," Mara-Christian told the Boston Herald. "I hunt because I want these creatures to be here forever."
The South Carolina Department of Natural Resources states in the introduction of an online hunters' guide:
"The alligator hunting season is integral to the conservation of the American alligator in South Carolina, adds to the value of the animal and allows hunters to benefit from this sustainable and renewable natural resource."
The online guide also lists devices that can be used to attach a restraining line to the dangerous reptiles, after they've been baited and brought alongside the boat. They include hand-held snares, harpoons, gigs, arrows and snatch hooks.
Alligators are typically dispatched with a bang-stick or a handgun.
Mara-Christian's gator is a serious trophy. American alligators rarely exceed 10 feet and top out at about 13 feet. The male specimen captured by Mara-Christian was estimated to be between 60-75 years old, and very near the end of its lifespan.
"I was hoping for something around 10 feet," she told the Berkeley Independent. "We never imagined landing something like this."
-- Top image showing Maryellen Mara-Christian with her prized 'gator is courtesy of Dan Brown / Berkeley Independent


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Posted by hailey light September 21, 2010 05:40pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
Wow. If you must kill everything around you that doesn't appeal to you, you can at least be respectful about it and put the creature out of it's misery instead of torturing it to the end. If she didn't know how to kill it, she had no right to be hunting, and if she did, then she needs to be checked out by a professional for abusing animals. People keep saying it would have killed her otherwise, but at least the alligator does it for food and kills quickly, instead of getting pleasure out of watching its pray slowly die in agony the way some disgusting people do. I do know why we have to hunt to keep populations down and I'm all for it, but only if you're going to do it right the first time.
Reply by dare0077 September 21, 2010 05:47pm PDTReport Abuse
Are you for real? So, would you like to be killed quickly for food then?
Reply by adam gregg September 21, 2010 05:57pm PDTReport Abuse
Hailey light.. are you serious? NO ONE here has ANY idea what they are talking about... yet they are all trying to sound like the authority on the subject.. I cannot believe how ignorant some of you people are.
Reply by chrisbdba September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
hailey what works to kill one alligator won't work for the next one that is why there is more than ne way to kill them.You don't know how big it is until the line is pulled out of the water then you have seconds to decide beofre you are the fod.
Reply by dylan baker September 21, 2010 09:42pm PDTReport Abuse
Alligators don't kill that quickly first of all and you have no idea how hard it is to take down an average size gator it doesn't happen in one shot even to the head, unless you have a very powerful gun and want to blow the damn head off of it. They have very strong skin and quick refllexes and movements even an expert would of had difficulty taking this down.
Reply by molinyc September 22, 2010 07:00am PDTReport Abuse
that is right hailey - but according to some of these expert "outdoor enthusiasts" there is nothing wrong with this bitc** killing this gorgeous animal...just for the hell of it...nothing wrong w trophy hunting? knuckle dragging idiots - if you kill it eat it - i'd love to stuff this animal down this woman's throat........better yet ...fish hook up her a$$ then hang her from the nearest power line..that is real trophy hunting.
Reply by dare0077 September 22, 2010 12:01pm PDTReport Abuse
Please read the articles or background information before making ignorant comments. It was not for the hell of it . The woman was sought after, after several complaints from neighbors of the beast roaming near by.
Maybe they should have captured the Gator and put it on your front lawn since you're ok with it .
In addition, she did take the Gator meat to store for food. Unfortunately, some people like to make harsh judgements without getting all the facts. Case in point.
Please stay out of jury pools in the future
Reply by barryosama September 22, 2010 08:59pm PDTReport Abuse
seems some of you tree huggers dont have a clue of what your saying... killing a gator isn't easy.. and molinyc the gator was skinned and the meat processed.. your a douchbag
Reply by dans777 September 23, 2010 07:02am PDTReport Abuse
Well, actually my family is very good friends with this woman and her family. I know for a fact that they will be eating the meat from the gator and what they don't want goes straight to shelter's so homeless/poor can have a meal too! All of you who think she does this just for fun and fun alone are extremely ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about! Can you not read the signs in the background that say..."Alligator Processing"!! How many of you who've posted on this know them and know their intentions? None of you!!! So before you get on your high horse and start talking about shoving things up or down any of her orafaces, step back and think about what you're saying and think about if you have any right to say it. Because last time I checked, every person in existence do things they shouldn't or things other people think they shouldn't...including you.
Reply by dans777 September 23, 2010 09:24am PDTReport Abuse
Wow, do you feel better about yourself now that you've made yourself look worse than any hunter could ever look? Way to be an adult about things. And she isn't a dumb redneck white trash piece of crap woman either. Judging by your comments, she's quite a bit more classy than you are "captcrunch". And as far as your comment about me going as her bait...you're a sick, sadistic person to even say that about anyone! What the heck is wrong with you?! I don't agree with or like anything that you've posted on this blog but I still would'nt ever wish that upon you, or anyone else for that matter. As far as the slavery thing goes, that's not even close to being the same sort of issue. Of course slavery is wrong and you're an idiot for pulling a race card out in a debate about an alligator!
Reply by molinyc September 23, 2010 10:47am PDTReport Abuse
>The hunter, who is from Massachusetts and received help from her husband and a guide,
>meat to store for food.... don't want goes straight to shelter's so homeless/poor
>And she isn't a dumb redneck
> I hunt because I want these creatures to be here forever
> was sought after, after several complaints from neighbors of the beast roaming near by
yup, she was sought after, like police seek psychics to solve a crime -
typical redneck knuckle dragging right winger responses
regurgitating the ignorance & bigotry they hear on limbaugh, beck and hannity.
.we saw their type on "Deliverance"
""we give the meat to the poor"" - phony hypocrites - that is right, the poor need to feed on the meat of this animal to keep from starving..rednecks are ignorant and disgusting.
Reply by molinyc September 23, 2010 11:34am PDTReport Abuse
>in addition, she did take the Gator meat to store for food
>you tree huggers dont have a clue .. molinyc.. gator skinned .. the meat processed..douchbag
if you kill it eat it !!
to store for food? give it to friends? and when none of your other stuffed redneck friends want anymore alligator meat - give it away to homeless shelters - but most likely throw it out as spoiled - what humanitarians!!! - yup, need to store it - too lazy to bring your fat a$$es over to walmart and shop -
>>And she isn't a dumb redneck white trash piece of crap woman either
sure sounds like she and her stupid husband are....teabaggers
Reply by dare0077 September 23, 2010 12:02pm PDTReport Abuse
Moli,
Breathe woman! This isn't a political arguement. If you don't like the law, then do something to change it. But, at the very least, get your facts straight. More importantly, take some responsibility and stop blaming other people for the missery you've created in your own life.
As a matter of fact, I suggest that you go to the Everglades in S Florida and jump in a lake and do the backstroker with your Alligator friends. I promise they wont do a thing.
On second thougt, In case your IQ is below 100, this is a joke. Do NOT jump in a lake full of Alligators, they will eat you and you'll end up just being another pile of Gator shit sitting in the Everglades.
Reply by molinyc September 23, 2010 04:09pm PDTReport Abuse
>>Breathe woman! This isn't a political arguement.
actually billy-bob, you're wrong on both counts.
it is not only political but cultural at it's core.
Neanderthals vs. the rest of us
heew haaw
as to the rest of your rant - it is not worth responding to
bye
end of thread -
Reply by dare0077 September 23, 2010 05:06pm PDTReport Abuse
Absoultely not. Just because you believe something strongly, doesn't mean that the it has any basis in reality. Your dillusions should be somewhat supported by facts. And they clearly are not.
The only thing clear to me, is that you're fighting a cultural war not with everyone else around you and humanity, but with yourself. Maybe, you hate what you see everyday when you look in the mirror. But, that's your problem -not societies. So, get a life and stop hating on everyone.
Reply by devildareme September 24, 2010 05:57am PDTReport Abuse
hailey, killing 1 alligator does not constitute "kill everything around you that doesn't appeal to you" and i'm fairly certain that you have no idea whether or not this woman was "getting pleasure out of watching its pray slowly die in agony the way some disgusting people do" do not speak on that which you do not know. from the mouths of fools comes ignorance.
Reply by stmag September 24, 2010 04:01pm PDTReport Abuse
wow, I can't understand the ignorance of some people and how they feel against hunters! Have these tree huggers that shop at safeway, walmart or any other store to purchase that prepackaged meat, ever spent time in a slaughter house? You want to see torture? Then I dare you to make rash statements against hunters. 90% of everthing that I have ever hunted died without pain or torture. While just the opposite happens at the slaughter houses.
Reply by yoda0311 January 20, 2012 11:22am PSTReport Abuse
Good for you!! That thing can harm innocent people and children with ease. Its the opposite of all those imbred morons hunting giraffes in Africa. Those giraffes are minding their own business and aren't going to do anything to you. You go all the way over there to TRY and prove your manhood...or lack thereof!? Good job, you had a gun you idiot! You are so tough!! You have the smallest balls on the planet! How do you feel about that Douche McShrivelnuts???
Posted by donald lee September 21, 2010 05:41pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
if i had a license to kill a gator and that was the one that i found, id kill it.. you people want to wine about this fucking thing being killed but if the roles were reversed and this creature came after your child or grandchild,you would not think twice of having this thing killed.you fucking people need to quit bitching before you think about what you would do if you were the hunted and not the hunter.
Reply by suesmith September 21, 2010 06:33pm PDTReport Abuse
You've got it completely backwards. The animal was in its own habitat, minding its own business. Then there was the equivalent of a home invasion and the animal was held captive and tortured to death, for fun, just like many psychotic killers do in the homes of humans. He threatened no one's grandchildren. She deserves the same treatment.
Reply by jjpwat86 September 22, 2010 02:10am PDTReport Abuse
i find it ironic that the people defending the alligator keep saying she deserves to die instead. who's the real pychopath there? if you think that a human should die instead of an animal, GO LIVE IN A TREE AND STAY AWAY FROM SANE PEOPLE. and people who have never seen a gator up close or live somewhere that doesnt have a gator population KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT. Gators are passive creatures but do get aggressive if provoked or hungry, usually due to overpopulation and relocation is not the answer. all you doing is putting them somewhere else for them to overpopulate. gators are very territorial and once the place you relocate them to gets too crowded, they spread back out, WASTING OUR TIME AND TAXDOLLARS. if someone wants to hunt them, let them. who are you to take away a practice that people have been doing since the dawn of time? yes it sucks that such magnificent animal died but that gator wouldnt have thought twice about making you his next meal if he was hungry enough. ive seen pictures of people cutting a golfer out of an alligators stomach. and heres a fun fact for you, once a gator has you in a death roll and drowns you, he'll drag you to the bottom and set something heavy on you. then he'll leave you there until you start decomposing so your flesh is soft enough for him to easily devour you.so if the tables were turned. that gator would make you suffer just as much as he suffered but again, that only happens if a gator is starving and has no other natural food supply. usually due to OVERPOPULATION. hunting is a real solution to a real problem . ALL YOU WHINEY TREE HUGGERS KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE POSTING, AND QUIT SMELLING YOUR OWN FARTS CAUSE YOU THINK YOUR SHIT DOESNT STINK. death is a part of life, get used to it.
Reply by dans777 September 23, 2010 07:31am PDTReport Abuse
To "jjpwat86"...nicely said!! Do any of you know this woman and/or her intentions? Well, my family and hers happen to be very close and I know for a fact that they don't hunt any animal(s) just for the sport of it!!! They're very involved with the conservation of animals and the ecosystems with which they live!!! Their family nor mine will EVER hunt anything that either they will not consume OR that they will not give to a shelter/organization that feeds the less fortunate!!! So before you go chastizing someone for doing what people have done since, well forever, you need to step back and say to yourself that you don't know them and you don't know their situation or their intentions!!! SO GET OVER IT!!!!!! THEY'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG, IT'S HUNTING SEASON!!!!!! And to "suesmith"...with all do respect, that gator has been on this planet for up to 75 years, so how in the world do you know that he hasn't threatened or even devoured anyone or anyone's "grandchildren"?!?! Plus, last time I checked, it was done DURING HUNTING SEASON!! Hunting Season is a brief period of the year where people who are licensed to hunt a particular animal(s) can do so LEGALLY, in order to maintain a healthy ecosystem/habitat for these animals (as well as people) to LIVE in!!! So once again, GET OVER IT!!!!!!
Reply by suesmith September 24, 2010 06:19pm PDTReport Abuse
jjpwat86 - You're an excellent spokesperson for the people that believe in torturing animals. You're ignorant, illiterate, uneducated, insensitive, stupid and an asshole. Way to back up your peeps, dummy. Keep talking. Each piece of asinine lunacy that drips from your idiotic mouth brings another person to the cause of animal rights.
Reply by brandon maverick pickens September 26, 2010 01:57am PDTReport Abuse
from an indifferent point of view, 'jjpwat86' stung together facts and logic that make me want to lean toward him, but 'suesmith' just kinda had rant reminiscent of a 5 year old with an impressive vernacular having a temper tantrum. If there's a half-ton beast creeping the surrounding neighborhoods you kill it, or it kills you. I've never understood why tree-huggers of all people would expect someone to follow a basic natural instinct, which in this case is kill or be killed
Posted by thuc nguyen September 21, 2010 05:41pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
people are just mad because they are not the one who captured him(the gator).. yes it sounds cruel but the only way to kill a gator is a small area the size of a dime in the back of the head.. if you don't shoot it there, you will be on the end on that rope....but the knife jab was a little much...lol you wanna kill it not put it in a wheel chair for the rest of it's life...lol
Posted by angeleta September 21, 2010 05:42pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
These people make a living on hunting them. You ever watch swamp people, these people keep the count down. I am glade she killed that big thing. Let me ask you this what if someone you love gotten killed by these things, what would you say or do then. I think you would be singing a different tone. Did you see how big that thing is I am glade she killed it and I don't care how she did it.
Reply by suesmith September 24, 2010 06:22pm PDTReport Abuse
How many people are killed by drunk drivers, domestic violence, gun violence, even medical errors compared to the number killed by "gators"? Use some common sense.
Reply by matt robinson September 28, 2010 12:41pm PDTReport Abuse
Suesmith,
I am wondering about one small thing. Do you support abortion?
From reading your previous posts I get that sense that you support equal rights for animals and feel that no organism should suffer or be killed for any reason. So I hope you would extend the same rights to an unborn baby as you would to that "poor" alligator.
Posted by jutto97 September 21, 2010 05:42pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
I like how Joey has nothing better to do than to comment on everyones post. Way to use the "if i keep talking eventually people will think I am right" method. Hunting season exists for a reason in every state for several species. As long as she did it with-in the laws of that state I don't see a problem. Too many of you on here have your stupid opinions and want to make everyone believe what you believe like the christians...STFU. No one cares what you think. You're an idiot!! Take care of your family, raise your kids to believe what you think is right and just worry about yourselves. What everyone else does is really none of your business and if you think it is you're f-ing retarded.
Reply by highway johnny September 21, 2010 05:47pm PDTReport Abuse
UH? And what makes you think people care what you think? I mean you wouldn't write a post like that unless you wanted peoples attention.
So don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
Posted by gamer2456 September 21, 2010 05:43pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
I don't see problem with hunting but to kill animal is this way it outrages she could done more less crulety to this animal. Let give someone the chance hunt her that way and see how crulety of death she would have and painful one at that.
This just plain sick and she would be lock up for animal crulety and pay large amount money for what she did .
Posted by highway johnny September 21, 2010 05:43pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
looserooster needs to go back to school and learn about alligators. When I was kid. I used to swim in the Swanee river in Fla with alligators 50 to 100 feet away. And I'm still here and so are the others I swam with. Alligators become aggressive when there is lack of food or they are being messed with or your to close to their nest. As long as you avoid those three things. Gators will ignore you and prefer not to be bothered. And that cocka-mammy line , "I hunt so they will be here forever. Hog-mosh. Leave them the hell alone and they will be around forever. And if you have to kill an alligator out of self defense. Kill it quick like you want someone to do to you. If your killing to control population. Then hey just start killing people. There's 10 time more people than alligators. And a kid could kill an alligator that way. Try it with your bare hands. Then you should be talked about in the papers. And alligators have been around longer than man. So I don't think we have to worry about the younger ones. They don't eat each other. Do you realize how long it took that gator to get that big. Years and years and years. And it really isn't that much above the normal size. You go to zoos and you see gators that big. One gator that size, isn't going to wipe out a reptile that has been around since the dinosaurs. And it's gods job to balance the ecosystem not ours. Ours seems to be to screw it up. We do a great job of that.
Yes gators have attacked. Most likely because the rivers are polluted and there aren't as many fish as 50 yrs ago. There not like crocodiles. Those are vicious meat eaters. And attack without cause. Hell they'll tip you boat over if they can. Leave the gators alone and they'll leave you alone. Just like bees, or snake or badgers,or boar.
Reply by chrisbdba September 21, 2010 06:24pm PDTReport Abuse
You have never been near an alligator idiot! I can tell by the BS you are spewing.Go for it you first!
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:30pm PDTReport Abuse
Good post Johnny. Don't mind the ignorant rednecks... they are swarming to this site to defend there beloved pastime of proving they are still a man, because financially most of them cant.
Reply by dorkmeyer29 September 21, 2010 10:53pm PDTReport Abuse
bmaas13: When did you learn how to use the Internet?
Reply by hunter327 September 22, 2010 01:53pm PDTReport Abuse
And you, bmaas, are what most people would call a hippie, you are one of those people who go save the animals and frollicing down a meadow planting flowers...id like to see your face when she guts that gator, Mr. Man.
Reply by highway johnny September 22, 2010 08:35pm PDTReport Abuse
Thank you bmass13 and to chrisbdba. Since you've obviously have known me my whole life. PROVE I"M LYING twinkle toes. I challenge you to prove I'm lying. And don't come back with this childish bull crap , "Well you prove your not" You accused me so burden of proof is on YOU twinkle toes.
Reply by suesmith September 24, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Hunter327 - Sounds like you're have a very strange fantasy. Sounds like the psycho sexual serial killer modis operandi to me. Get a healthier fantasy sicko. Picturing a woman gutting another living thing is not what a normal man thinks about.
Posted by jason popielarski September 21, 2010 05:44pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
I don't have a problem with the way she killed it, whack it's nasty old but and chuck it down there on the plate. I use to go shark fishing in California for 8-12 foot blue sharks. To get the hook out we used to hold the jaw up with a gaff hook cut it's throat and put our arm down it's throat down to the stomach and retrieve the hook. That's after it was shot 3 times with a .38 bang stick. We would then throw a rope around the tail and drag it backwards (sharks need to swim forward to breath) to suffocate it on the way back to port. Pull them out of water, two hours out of water back home, gut them in the driveway and the hearts were still beating! Big monsters are hard to kill, I give this woman credit, she eliminated a very serious threat to her community by every means possible except for dynamite. I think they should give her an award.
Reply by suesmith September 24, 2010 06:29pm PDTReport Abuse
You should seek help for your illness. There is something psychologically depraved about a person that gives that kind of description about another living thing. You are not well. And we are not safe with you living on the same planet. Turn yourself in before you do something hideous to a human, if you haven't already.
Posted by dew September 21, 2010 05:44pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
There's no reason to kill such a glorious creature. If you thin an overpopulated species (which is good conservation), it should be just the adolescents, not the very young or mature. They're what keep the population going and healthy. Large, healthy, specimens who've been smart enough to survive well into adulthood like that gator should definitely be protected because they'll pass on the best genes.
Reply by dylan baker September 21, 2010 09:48pm PDTReport Abuse
No it should why would you kill young children and leave the old ones to repopulate that is stupid. Also think about it it was a male gator which should be the ones to be killed because it only takes one male to repopulate with 10 or so females.
Reply by william mayes September 22, 2010 07:31pm PDTReport Abuse
You got that bass ackwards kid. Kill a male and the other males take up the slack. Population increase is always in proportion to the number of females.
Posted by dew September 21, 2010 05:44pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
There's no reason to kill such a glorious creature. If you thin an overpopulated species (which is good conservation), it should be just the adolescents, not the very young or mature. They're what keep the population going and healthy. Large, healthy, specimens who've been smart enough to survive well into adulthood like that gator should definitely be protected because they'll pass on the best genes.
Reply by kyrie wise smith September 22, 2010 12:56pm PDTReport Abuse
I agree with you
Posted by eugene ng teck lung September 21, 2010 05:44pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
We are humans for a reason. We are also nature's potent killers in life because we survive with our wits throughout generations. We kill fast, we kill effectively and efficiently. Animals drag their prey down, drown them, suffocate them, bleed them to death. WE ARE NOT ANIMALS.
There is a reason why we have the term 'killing humanely'. We put the bast*rds out of their misery quickly. If an alligator eats your baby or your love one and you hear them scream while torn to bits, would you want to hear it scream in agony too WHEN you kill it? Animals also feel pain. They are living creatures too.
I live in Malaysia, in the state of Sarawak. We have crocs here and they are sneaky creatures. We kill them all the time. WE KILL THEM ON SIGHT, but animal watchdogs DID NOT protest about our killings.
You know why?
Because if we cause them too much pain just to see it die, than we are no better those human eating monsters. We shoot it till it is dead. Failing that, we use 'parangs' (machetes) to slice the throat and let it bleed painlessly to death after capturing it and tying them up.
We are humans, so kill them properly for God's sake. The difference between the US and Malaysia, they kill for sport, here, even in my home town Miri have alligators along the city rivers, we kill for protection.
It has claws and teeth, you have a Goddamn gun and two fast legs. That's a big difference. Barring that, why are you even near those killer's areas anyway? Even if don't know its' home is there, didn't your mommy ever tell you not to go places that are isolated? Or even feels dangerous? You do have gut instincts don't you?
Reply by chrism3nz September 23, 2010 02:43am PDTReport Abuse
i agree and disagree with this message. first of all humans ARE animals. and im not sure that having your throat sliced by a machete and bled to death is very painless. and i live also in malaysia and believe me. anyone who has been to a malaysian zoo will tell you the way they treat animals. i have seen live shows where for $10 you get to see a monkey go inside a crocs mouth to eat the banana that some guy has put in the crocs teeth. you can imagine the consequences. the cruelty to animals is well and truly alive in malaysia. rooster fighting with blades put on their feet. pumping bile from sunbears and eating tigers penis to make you dick hard. hmmm maybe the usa isnt so bad after all
but then again good for you for sticking up for the croc
Reply by suesmith September 24, 2010 06:30pm PDTReport Abuse
They are terrible to animals in Malaysia. Actually people aren't treated too well either.
Posted by ral September 21, 2010 05:47pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
They give murderers 'lethal injections",gas chamber or in Florida, why not use old "sparky". The people(this woman!) should be ashamed of herself. PROUD!, way to go girl!, you killed a living thing by torturing it!. The brutality of the way the Alligator was killed is a ridicuous,heinous crime. If the population needs to be "thinned", surely there are more humane ways of doing it without turning it into a "Good Ole boys" fun day out with the family!. Shame on all the people involved. This is just simply disgusting!.
Reply by chrisbdba September 21, 2010 05:49pm PDTReport Abuse
Could be be anymore ignorant?No people like you are disgusting
Reply by adam gregg September 21, 2010 05:51pm PDTReport Abuse
No one tortured anything you ignorant moron.. and I hate to be the one to tell you but, thats how EVERYONE across the world hunts game that big.. it's called life, get one. You might have a better understanding of what goes on outside your moms basement.
Reply by suesmith September 21, 2010 06:20pm PDTReport Abuse
No, it's called being a murderer. Just because you've selected a different species, doesn't mean it's not murder. Animals aren't "game."
Reply by sindelle morte September 21, 2010 06:22pm PDTReport Abuse
Killing animals is not murder, you tool.
Reply by adam gregg September 21, 2010 06:24pm PDTReport Abuse
Suesmith, you make me lol... so with your logic the Orkin man is a mass murderer on par with Hitler then . LOL ROFL O man... you def. made me laugh today.. do you mind if I post this on LAMEBOOK? It'll win me an award. lol
Reply by monicalee234 September 21, 2010 07:00pm PDTReport Abuse
Adam LOVED IT!!!!!!! Now that gave me a great laugh.... After reading all these post Lord knows I needed one!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!
Reply by monicalee234 September 21, 2010 07:00pm PDTReport Abuse
Adam LOVED IT!!!!!!! Now that gave me a great laugh.... After reading all these post Lord knows I needed one!!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!
Posted by chrisbdba September 21, 2010 05:48pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
Gee do any of you realize animals ths size are a dager to other animals and any human who comes near it?Seriously these animals are not hunted for sport their meat is ate get ready for it...I hear it takes like (tougher )chicken.Anyway in rder to keep them in their swamp habitiate and not wandering around where people begin to disappear and become food the yearly hunt is necessary.Personally with an animal that views you as lunch I really don't give a ____ how they kill it as long as the deed is done.Some of you wuld never survive away from the cities and would never survive a complete collaspe of the country while people like this lady would be just fine.Oh yeas they use the hide for all of those expensive fancy shoes and bags you city folks seem to like a lot.Where exactly did you think all of that came from the back of the stores?ROFLOL Silly liberals just be glad there isn't a season for your kind.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:55pm PDTReport Abuse
Agree. Some of us "city slickers" might not survive in the wild if we had too. Unfortunately, you and more importantly if you breed (which I hope you don't) have no chance in the REAL world... which requires tools you don't have my friend. Very sad your level of intelligence.
Reply by devildareme September 24, 2010 06:01am PDTReport Abuse
bmaas, the wild is the real world, cyberspace is not.
Reply by suesmith September 24, 2010 06:41pm PDTReport Abuse
Why is it that all of you pro-killing types are illiterate? Read back over the posts. You can't communicate a clear thought or create a clear, concise sentence. You can't spell, punctuate or even reason. There should be a study to anayze if there is some correlation between being evil and enjoying the torture of helpless animals, and, being a stupid illiterate asshole? There's certainly a common thread. Wonder if the murderess could read, write and reason?
Some say the difference between us and animals is our ability to reason. Though I don't agree that animals can't reason, I do see that the people who stalk, hunt, torture and kill defenseless animals, become blinded by their thirst for blood and lose their ability to reason. Get help and also some "schoolin'" while you're at it, yokels.
Posted by humanssuck September 21, 2010 05:50pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
Nothing deserves to experience pain and torture for 2 hours! Predator or not! At least gators have the decency to kill their prey quickly! If hunting helps keep the balance, then so be it, but nothing deserves to be tortured to death for that length of time. All animals, regardless of where they stand on the food chain are completely innocent. They do not have thoughts of spite, or hate, they do what needs to be done to survive. To be punnished by torture for what it is designed to do by nature is awful. All animals deserve our respect and if their numbers need to be controlled, the very least they deserve is a quick and painless death. She should have known when she got that gator next to her boat that her tools for murder would NOT WORK! Therefore she should have left it alone and got a bigger weapon to kill it effectively. But her greed and desire for fame/popularity got the better of her and she didn't give a shit what the animal had to go through. And apparently, she is fine with torturing something to death. That worries me. I think we need to control OUR population and kill greedy killers like her! I hope PETA gives her absolute hell for the rest of her fucking life.
Reply by suesmith September 21, 2010 06:09pm PDTReport Abuse
Hunters are serial killers. No different than Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy. They stalk, surprise, always make sure they have an unfair advantage over their victim, incapable of feeling empathy, often dismember and often, like Jeffrey Dahmer, eat their prey. They keep trophies, thrill at the power over the victim, draw out the experience. They are no different than serial killers that choose humans as their victims. Look at the attributes of and behavior of a serial killer and you will find that those that call themselves hunters are exactly the same.
Reply by sindelle morte September 21, 2010 06:16pm PDTReport Abuse
You're mistaken, dear. Serial killers a relatively new phenomenon in the civilized world. Hunting has been around since there were ever people.
Reply by suesmith September 21, 2010 06:22pm PDTReport Abuse
Sindelle-Is that the only difference you can find? You made my case for me. So they are exactly the same. Sick, twisted murderers only according to you, one has been actively murdering for longer.
Reply by adam gregg September 21, 2010 06:25pm PDTReport Abuse
Lol sue smith.. you have GOT to be a troll, you can't be serious.
Reply by sindelle morte September 21, 2010 06:27pm PDTReport Abuse
Actually, the larger difference would be that serial murder is a socio-sexual crime. It is perpetrated by a malfeasance of the character, specifically the superego, or id as it is often called. Serial murders have serious cognitive issues regarding object relations, object permanence and interpersonal exploitation.
Shall I go on? Because I can.
Reply by sindelle morte September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Actually, the larger difference would be that serial murder is a socio-sexual crime. It is perpetrated by a malfeasance of the character, specifically the superego, or id as it is often called. Serial murders have serious cognitive issues regarding object relations, object permanence and interpersonal exploitation.
Shall I go on? Because I can.
Reply by sindelle morte September 21, 2010 06:28pm PDTReport Abuse
Actually, the larger difference would be that serial murder is a socio-sexual crime. It is perpetrated by a malfeasance of the character, specifically the superego, or id as it is often called. Serial murders have serious cognitive issues regarding object relations, object permanence and interpersonal exploitation.
Shall I go on? Because I can.
Reply by monicalee234 September 21, 2010 06:38pm PDTReport Abuse
Aren't animals hunters too. Doesn't an alligator hunt too... oh wait I guess I am wrong an alligator must be a vegetarian ...
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:58pm PDTReport Abuse
Looks like Sindelle Morte likes to use Wikepedia... your not fooling anyone Sindelle, please stop trying to act like you have a brain!
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 06:58pm PDTReport Abuse
Looks like Sindelle Morte likes to use Wikepedia... your not fooling anyone Sindelle, please stop trying to act like you have a brain!
Reply by dorkmeyer29 September 21, 2010 10:59pm PDTReport Abuse
bmaas13: People with brains don't post the same comment twice. Also, please borrow a brain so you can correct your spelling before posting *twice*. ("Wikipedia" and "you're" instead of "your")
Reply by suesmith September 22, 2010 04:46am PDTReport Abuse
Actually Sindelle, everything you cut and pasted makes my point and it perfectly describes those that get glee from hunting and torturing helpless animals. It is probably sexual. "It is a socio-sexual crime. It is perpetrated by a malfeasance of the character, specifically the superego, or id as it is often called. Serial murders have serious cognitive issues regarding object relations, object permanence and interpersonal exploitation."
No difference in the definition. Thanks for describing it, er, stealing the description that supports my position. Sick sons of bitches, or bitch in this case.
Reply by kyrie wise smith September 22, 2010 12:55pm PDTReport Abuse
I agree with humanssuck
Reply by sindelle morte September 26, 2010 05:46pm PDTReport Abuse
Cut & pasted? LMAO. It's a damn shame that someone is so used to people being complete fucking morons that they can't conceive of a person actually BEING intelligent.
Reply by sindelle morte September 26, 2010 05:46pm PDTReport Abuse
Please do look up in Wikipedia and see if you find what I said. I dare you.
Posted by welder_1 September 21, 2010 05:52pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
Soo all of you complaining are vegetarians right because cows, bulls, and chickens don't get it much better
Reply by devildareme September 24, 2010 06:01am PDTReport Abuse
well said, welder.
Posted by chrism3nz September 21, 2010 05:53pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
gators were in south carolina well before humans were and the ecosystem survived. i say we wipe out humans and then see what the positive effects will be for the environment . ok slightly extreme i admit but my point is humans are the problem.not oversized gators. this " i,m killing(sorry i mean HUNTING ) animals to help out the species is a load of bull and just an excuse to get the rifle out and show the sadistic nature of homo sapiens.
by the way hows about anyone over the height of 6,4 or weight of 95 kilos be culled for the better of our species.
Reply by dare0077 September 21, 2010 06:04pm PDTReport Abuse
You must hate yourself. Did you forget you are a human or are you the human that is above all humans. Fool!
Reply by chrism3nz September 21, 2010 06:12pm PDTReport Abuse
actually i include myself in the above comment.and i defiantly include you. i guess you arnt happy because you fit in the over 95 kilo range. bad luck.
Reply by dare0077 September 21, 2010 06:25pm PDTReport Abuse
In your attempt to create some sense of false sympathy, the true nature of your disdain towards human life surfaces. You could possibly end up as the next mass murderer, or maybe, just maybe, you're just a poor confused soul. For the sake of humanity, I hope for the latter.
Reply by kyrie wise smith September 22, 2010 12:54pm PDTReport Abuse
I agree with chrism3nz
Reply by devildareme September 24, 2010 06:02am PDTReport Abuse
chris, so you will be first to volunteer for the chopping block?
Reply by chrism3nz September 26, 2010 12:43am PDTReport Abuse
im not over 95 kilos and under 6,4 . hows about you devil.
Posted by stephen chukwu September 21, 2010 05:53pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
what a great catch! This show that the mind of man is capable of anything. Well done Christiana. You achieve what ever is your desired goal. What is your goal now?Getting the job, buying your first car or clearing the unwanted acne scars from your face! you can achieve it if only you dare.
Posted by james bane September 21, 2010 05:53pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
I personally don't see anything wrong with what happened here. If it was any normal gator it would have been much easier to capture/kill, but due to its large size it took much more and I guess that makes it inhumane... Would you rather have her let him go with a hook in his mouth and a harpoon stuck in him so he could have suffered for days? When it comes down to it that would have been much closer to life in the wild. For example if that gator had been in a fight with another gator and had been mortally wounded such as one of his limbs being taken off, he would have possible suffered for days before dying. Another good example is snake venom, which can sometimes take many hours of agonizing suffering before the snake kills its prey.
My point is that humans are much more "humane" than the rest of the world and even though it may have seemed brutal it really doesn't compare. Its also important to take into account that the reason it was so drawn out was because hunters are very limited in what they can use to prevent things such as over-hunting.
People also don't seem to realize that humans play an important role as the top predators in our environment all over the world. We also seem to be the only predators, who think about the welfare of our prey and have rules and regulations in effect to help keep our environments in balance when in reality if you introduce a new predator into a foreign environment, for example, and it has no natural enemies, it will multiply and hunt its prey to the point of extinction, which can upset an entire ecosystem.
Reply by james bane September 22, 2010 08:56am PDTReport Abuse
So your saying because we have the ability to live as vegetarians through farming and agriculture we should? What about areas where humans are just about the only predator and deers become overpopulated, which becomes problem for the entire ecosystem including the deers themselves? There's also many of my points you seemed to ignore...
Posted by squall September 21, 2010 05:56pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
what a bunch of pussy whipped metrosexuals. go touch up your eye makeup
Reply by longbag7 September 21, 2010 06:33pm PDTReport Abuse
I agree ! these people need to get off the computer once and a while, and feel the grass between their toes. These alligators need to be regulated just like deer, sheep, elk, etc. I personally don't hunt, but as a boy I was raised on deer meat. My father fed a family of eight by hunting. I would sure like to have some of that gator BBQ.
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 07:02pm PDTReport Abuse
Coming from the guy who has a Grindtv profile picture and has responded to a hundred posts.... interesting!
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 07:02pm PDTReport Abuse
Coming from the guy who has a Grindtv profile picture and has responded to a hundred posts.... interesting!
Reply by bmaas13 September 21, 2010 07:02pm PDTReport Abuse
Coming from the guy who has a Grindtv profile picture and has responded to a hundred posts.... interesting!
Reply by molinyc September 22, 2010 07:06am PDTReport Abuse
>>pussy whipped metrosexuals...
typical knuckle dragging right winger, regurgitating the hatred and bigotry they listen to on limbaugh, beck and hannity..we saw his type on "Deliverance" ..come on macho man..squeal like a pig
Reply by devildareme September 24, 2010 06:04am PDTReport Abuse
moli, your comments are ignorant. from the mouths of fools comes ignorance.
Reply by molinycssquirmyrooter September 28, 2010 09:33pm PDTReport Abuse
molinyc, please get laid by something human for a change. Head for the nearest alley with a twenty and relieve some of your tension. Your head is ready to explode. That would be a tragedy. Unless, of course, it happened in the jaws of an alligator.
Posted by brad bryant September 21, 2010 05:56pm PDTReply | Report Abuse
Way to go babe even women are starting to become hunters and gatherers ! Make you a pretty pair of boots too from the belly and don't let all these bunny hugging right wing left wing idiots bring you down. When it all crumbles with the president they elected they will be the one wanting to hide behind someone like you and I. They won't make it! You will and I will and I'm from Texas. Civil and well refined just as any blue butted Yankee ever thought of being! Lol
Reply by adam gregg September 21, 2010 06:06pm PDTReport Abuse
Hey, there's some Yankees that were raised huntin and shootin.. and some of em ..like this one lol... could prolly outshoot you dixieman...don't stereotype lol.
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