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  • Could Kelly Slater be the best athlete ever? No seriously?

    This post was initially published in September of 2010, just after Kelly Slater won the Hurley Pro at Trestles and took over the ratings lead in what was then his quest for a 10th world title. Last week he repeated the feat, and with four events left to go this season, Mr. Slater is now closing in on an 11th world championship. So we figured we'd update the stats and revisit this question, being it's even more relevant one year later.

    Nine-time [update: ten-time] world surfing champion Kelly Slater won the Hurley Pro Saturday [Update: Wednesday] at Lower Trestles, the same San Clemente, Calif. venue where he won his maiden victory as a pro nearly 20 [update: 21] years ago to the day.

    Of course, if and when any mention of his win makes the mainstream sporting press in the U.S. it's likely to be shoehorned between coverage of the latest hot dog-eating contest and a brawl between college mascots.

    Yet this win in particular should be acknowledged because it marks a milestone in sports that's rarely -- if ever -- reached. I'm biased, of course, so I'll ask you to shoot my theory down by answering the following question off the top of your head: Please name an athlete -- any athlete -- who's been the dominant force in their respective sport for a span of two decades?

    Mind you, I'm not talking about somebody who's hung around the top level for 20 years with a single title or two to show for it. Sports history is rich and thick with lovable legends who've endured like Brett Favre, Nolan Ryan, Cal Ripken, even George Foreman. Yet there's a large chasm between enduring and dominating -- as in being the primary gravitational force that others must orbit around. Favre, Ryan, Ripken and Foreman were all that force for a time, no doubt, but for 20 [update: 21] years? Nope.


    Find me somebody who, let's say, holds the record for being the youngest and oldest world champion. Whose career win percentage over two decades was near 80% and climbing. Who 20 [Update: 21] years after his debut win as a pro, recaptured a lead in the race for yet another world title, maybe a 10th? [update: 11th] Somebody who's owned the top slot in their sport's All-Star voting 15 times, and year-after-year humbles a fresh set of young rookies -- even those less than half his age -- who are allegedly coming to dethrone him. Yep, those are just a few of Slater's stats.

    [Old] Update: Kelly Slater clinches his 10th World Title.

    I've been racking my brain to trying to come up with somebody else. I even asked my buddies deep inside Y!Sports and ESPN for help. Surely they'd know someone? "A bowler? poker player? billiard champion?" In their defense, they were buried in NFL and MLB drama and had little time for such silliness from an Action Sports guy. Nevertheless, they politely threw me some meat just to appease me, Jordan, Armstrong, Navratilova and Bonds. I didn't want to rile them by telling them Slater's stats trump all of the above.

    I dug deeper, only to find that most athletes who rule for two full decades come from sedentary sports, like golfing, curling, angling or lawn darts. Or they spend their careers in idle positions that are highly specialized, like pitching, punting or goal keeper.

    Arnold Palmer and the Golden Bear are good examples of golfers who enjoyed marathon careers. Jack won his first championship in his early 20s, and The Masters when he was 46. Yet, even according to Golf Magazine, the 70s was the only decade he owned, while Palmer ran the show in the 60s.

    Tiger Woods is the obvious man-to-beat now. And though Woods (the first golfer to ever hit the gym?) is four years younger than Slater, and just 14 [update: 15] years into his pro career, his reign will undoubtedly surpass all comers. But that's still TBD for now, especially since Woods is slumping after his recent foray into public relations hell. [update: slumping big-time.]

    Mariano Rivera is arguably right there with Tiger. He's been baseball's dominant closer for 15 solid years. And he stands a decent chance of going five more years since, well, he only throws a handful of pitches per week.

    Admittedly, I'm operating under a completely deranged definition of an athlete, especially compared to the contemporary excuse for one. I weigh all of them against an ancient Roman scale that involves lions, tigers and The Colosseum -- an imaginary venue where today's sedentary athletes would become breakfast, brunch or lunch at best.

    I know this sounds like an absurd notion. There's simply no way a surfer can enter the conversation when we're talking about the most dominant athletes ever, right? Can we even dare to measure Slater's athletic feats against Wayne Gretzky and Jerry Rice? Those two really did dominate physically grueling sports for two decades. That's why they're considered the greatest. And maybe being blasted into the reef at Teahupoo isn't as scary as being checked, or catching an ill-timed pass over the middle, but view the accompanying links before considering which fate you'd choose.

    Whether surfing is a sport or not is an argument even surfers can't agree on. In fact, anything with judges is suspect since it's crossing into art. But there's no denying that whether you're paddling into 25-foot waves at Waimea Bay, or flying high at five-foot Bells Beach, the act demands endurance, timing, speed and flexibility, not to mention commitment, all which favor the young and athletically spry...or so we were told.

    After winning five straight titles in the 90s (six total) Slater retired in 1999, which, when translated, means he went surfing more. He chased swells around the globe for three years, visiting friends at every stop, waiting for a new crop of talent to mature and actually threaten his legacy before coming back to competition in 2003. In his first year back, he fell short in the final heat of the season. But by 2005 he had his title back, repeating again in 2006, and nabbing another in 2008. Now he's leading in 2010.

    Like Favre, [update: remember him?] Slater threatens retirement at every turn. Unlike Favre, he tends to go the distance when he comes back. Today 38-year-old [update: 39-year old] Slater is not only defying gravity with his results, but halting time with his surfing, which is still getting better. When asked how old he thinks he'd be if he didn't know how old he was, he says 24. Take one look at his sculpted physique and you'd agree that's his real age.

    It doesn't hurt that he's having fun. "I'd let a hundred thousand people punch me in the face to surf these waves alone," he said after collecting his check for $105,000. "I can't believe you guys are paying me for this."

    His decades of dominance required serious sacrifice though. He attributes some of his longevity to never being married, which was supposedly rough. His years running around with the likes of Pamela, Gisele and Cameron earned him more mainstream press than any of his records, compounding the torture. Poor guy.

    His travel schedule is grueling, too, but 12-hour flights or not, there's little sympathy for anyone headed to Tahiti, Fiji or Australia for a match. Slater's pro athlete friends are quick to remind him it beats Pittsburgh, Detroit or Cleveland.

    If Kelly wins his 10th [update: 11th] ASP world title this year he'll be tempted to walk away for good...again. Yet after being to the moon and back several times now he's surprised by where motivation continues to come from.

    "Once you've done all you've set out to do it becomes about things much larger than yourself," he says. He dedicated his landmark win Saturday to Daisy Merrick, granddaughter of his longtime shaper, friend, and mentor Al Merrick, who's bravely battling a rare form of cancer.

    In an era when our sports heroes continually disappoint, Slater, the human, is somebody parents needn't fear their kids emulating. The former Straight-A student has maintained his Ãüber-cool (Jack Johnson's singing career was spawned out of Slater-produced surf movies. Eddie Vedder invites Slater on stage for jam sessions at his concerts.) while neutralizing the old pejorative of being a surfer over the course of his reign.

    On any coast, in any country, Kelly Slater has tens of thousands of loyal fans who adore him. Yet he can rest assured that his peaceful refuge is always five minutes away, roughly four miles inland. Because on Main Street U.S.A. Slater will always be able to walk down the sidewalk unnoticed, despite being one of the most dominant athletes ever.

    Photos of Kelly Slater via ASP/Rowland, Kirstin & Hurley

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    ted bain

    Posted by ted bain September 20, 2010 05:37pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

    So true - so true, you Americans just don't appreciate the talent of Slater enough ... well. most of you.
    I'd like to see your toughest NFL dude paddle into a 'bomb' @ Pipe or Chopes - he'd shit himself!
    Yes, as an Aussie who wants to see Mick, Joel, Taj etc beat Slater every time, I still appreciate him as THE greatest ever athlete to walk the earth - no joking!
    His humility and general behaviour is something that all sports people should aspire to - well done Kelly.
    Kelly Slater is an inspiration so give him more press and more mainstream credit in the US of A.

    rl418

    Reply by rl418 September 21, 2010 10:41pm PDTReport Abuse

    I played plenty of football. And surfed with plenty of all-star athletes from football, basketball, and various other sports that also happen to be surfers. It is extremely difficult to make someone like scoober understand just how brutal & dangerous surfing can be. No offense but your "15-20 second" comment makes it pretty obvious how far off you are. One good paddle out into even 6 to 7 ft solid surf would change your perspective immediately. It can be extremely intimidating & even downright scary. Then there are those 10 to 15 ft. days at somewhere like Puerto Escondido where the fear factor is off the charts. Paddling out fueled by adrenaline and fear. Looking up at a mammoth mountain of power surging straight up into the sky, blocking out everything, and bearing down on you like a freight train. No, I've never been tackled by Ray Lewis but I have gone over the falls on a double overhead Puerto Escondido. A wave with enough power to light a small city. And I've been held under water long enough to think "this could be it". So if you never paddle out, you will never know.

    chicracing2

    Reply by chicracing2 September 22, 2010 01:28am PDTReport Abuse

    For those of you saying surfing is not a sport, i'd like you to try it then tell me that. I personally race motocross, and our "extreme sports" as you like to call them are extreme for a reason. NOT a lot of people have the balls to do what we do. Motocross and surfing are up there as some of the most physically and mentally demanding sports there are. Most of you assume that its easy, well i welcome you to try it. Try swinging your leg over a motorcycle and hitting a 150 ft triple.. try getting on that surfboard and go to Pipe, I guarantee you wouldnt last 2 seconds. All of the sports you are refering to are team based, there is NO teams out there in the ocean or on the track. Its you and you only. And Slater, Trey Canard, Shawn White, and many other extreme athletes have worked their asses off their entire lives to get where they are. So is Slater the Best Athlete? HELL YA.

    rl418

    Reply by rl418 September 22, 2010 06:55am PDTReport Abuse

    If Kelly Slater was from Australia he would be a national hero, they would be naming streets & libraries after him. And no (lakitti) you've never really been surfing. I'm not sure what you experienced but it wasn't surfing. My guess is you went boogie boarding in some 2 foot wind chops in the middle of summer in the gulf with your girlfriend. I'm pretty sure you've never sat in the line-up when the waves were slapping the bottom of the pier. Or scratched for the horizan trying to get over the top of an 8 ft. Escondido monster before ruined your day. (no biggie)

    chicracing2

    Reply by chicracing2 September 22, 2010 01:03pm PDTReport Abuse

    hey deeppit:

    how do you think he developed his skills? By being on a wave with tons of other people. And the same can be said about a number of other sports. Golf? There is no one doing anything at the exact same time your swinging that club, but they are considered athletes.

    elmo88888888

    Posted by elmo88888888 September 21, 2010 08:20pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

    fuck you belv

    hobiwan

    Posted by hobiwan September 21, 2010 09:18pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

    Ken Climo in Disc Golf - 12 World Champion titles in 20 years. Nine in a row in that mix. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Climo

    herbman

    Posted by herbman September 21, 2010 10:23pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

    There was a black track athlete that dominated the 400 meter hurdles for at least 20 years. His name was Moses something. Can someone out there help with the name?

    chicracing2

    Posted by chicracing2 September 22, 2010 01:35am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    For those of you saying surfing is not a sport, i'd like you to try it then tell me that. I personally race motocross, and our "extreme sports" as you like to call them are extreme for a reason. NOT a lot of people have the balls to do what we do. Motocross and surfing are up there as some of the most physically and mentally demanding sports there are. Most of you assume that its easy, well i welcome you to try it. Try swinging your leg over a motorcycle and hitting a 150 ft triple.. try getting on that surfboard and go to Pipe, I guarantee you wouldnt last 2 seconds. All of the sports you are refering to are team based, there is NO teams out there in the ocean or on the track. Its you and you only. And Slater, Trey Canard, Shawn White, and many other extreme athletes have worked their asses off their entire lives to get where they are. So is Slater the Best Athlete? HELL YA.

    dons

    Posted by dons September 22, 2010 01:49am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    I think everyone is going a bit loopy here. The article simply stated that Slater has been the top number one athlete in his field for 20 years straight and that other top athletes in football, baseball, hide and go seek or whatever have been at the top of their field on and off over the same period of time. Basically he is saying that Slater is performing something in his field that none of the other top athletes are performing in their field. He is not saying Slater is the toughest, or strongest, or that he can take a hit in football only that the dude deserves credit for being in the top slot for 20 years and that he basically owned his sport better than say Favre ( who I am a huge fan of btw) has owned football. Favre has had great years and not so great years. He has lasted almost 20 yrs in the nfl which is a spectacular feat, but he has not won the superbowl every year as Slater has consistently won over the past 20 yrs. Granted favre could probably stand his own in a showdown of athletic skill against slater if it was a neutral sport, but the point is Slater deserves recognition as the most dominating surfer in this lifetime and perhaps ever. The article was written poorly and the writer did a bad job at getting his point across.

    chad ohelo

    Posted by chad ohelo September 22, 2010 03:32am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    As an athletic competitor, I would no doubt put Kelly in the same group [15-20 yrs of dominance] as (IMHO) :Rice (Football), Gretzsky (Hockey), Bill Russell (Bball), (okay fine) Jordan, Derek Jeter [16 years 4 championships], Lance Armstrong ( you cant deny he still ruled ass in his sport) and Karch Kiraly (olympic and professional outdoor/indoor volleyball) [28 seasons of just beach volleyball finishing 1st place 148 times. This is not counting his three NCAA championships, two indoor gold medals, one outdoor gold medal, and 3 indoor European championships. I'm just saying, I am just saying].
    As an individual sport/athlete, Kelly has no doubt distinguished himself (as the article explains) from what I consider a pretty awesome group in terms of length of career, winning percentage, and championships. However, as being "the best athlete" ever, I choose my TOP 3; (3) Mark Allen (triathlete, 6 time Hawaii Ironman pro champion [for starters]), (2) Chris Chelios [despite winning only 3 championships, the dude played 28 seasons in the NHL- I am Just saying, I am just saying], and (my #1 Athlete EVER, as previously mentioned by others) is definitely Laird Hamilton. Its not that he thrives on riding the biggest waves on the planet, he also thrives on preparing himself (extreme training) to be able to perform (ride the biggest waves) when mother nature presents herself to him (the 100 foot swell); he thrives on being ready. If that is not convincing, how about when he rode his bike from London Heathrow to the English Channel, then SUP'd to Mainland Europe, and rode another bike over a couple hundred miles to somewhere in France. I am just saying (if he hasn't done so already) the only thing crazier than SUPing the Bering Strait (like Laird is going to do) is actually preparing himself to be able to do that. How is he preparing? I have no idea, But pure courage alone gets you the "BEST ATHLETE EVER" title, in my book!

    bill vint

    Posted by bill vint September 22, 2010 07:24am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    With due respect to the athletes you've identified, you omitted Walter Ray Williams Jr. of Ocala, Fla., who not only is the most successful professional bowler in history, but also is a six-time World Horseshoe Pitching Champion - and in his leisure time, is about a 5 handicap golfer. As a bowler, Williams has won 47 Professional Bowler Association titles (four more than the late Earl Anthony and 12 more than Pete Weber, the leader among active players). He is a seven-time PBA Player of the Year - winning that honor for a record seventh time at the conclusion of the 2009-10 season at age 50 (is there another athlete in any sport who has won that honor at his age?). He also won the PBA's competition points title for a record eighth time, the PBA's high average award for a record eighth time, and the PBA's earnings title for a record seventh time. He won two titles last season - his record 17th consecutive season with at least one title - including the United States Bowling Congress Masters, which is his eighth "major" championship. Having reached the age of 50, he became eligible for the PBA Senior Tour this year as well - and won the first Senior Tour event he entered on his way to becoming PBA Senior Tour "Rookie" of the Year. Walter Ray is not only still active on both the PBA Tour and PBA Senior Tour, but a leading threat in every event he enters. P.S. - his nickname is "Deadeye."

    bill vint

    Posted by bill vint September 22, 2010 07:50am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    With due respect to the athletes you've identified, you omitted Walter Ray Williams Jr. of Ocala, Fla., who not only is the most successful professional bowler in history, but also is a six-time World Horseshoe Pitching Champion - and in his leisure time, is about a 5 handicap golfer. As a bowler, Williams has won 47 Professional Bowler Association titles (four more than the late Earl Anthony and 12 more than Pete Weber, the leader among active players). He is a seven-time PBA Player of the Year - winning that honor for a record seventh time at the conclusion of the 2009-10 season at age 50 (is there another athlete in any sport who has won that honor at his age?). He also won the PBA's competition points title for a record eighth time, the PBA's high average award for a record eighth time, and the PBA's earnings title for a record seventh time. He won two titles last season - his record 17th consecutive season with at least one title - including the United States Bowling Congress Masters, which is his eighth "major" championship. Having reached the age of 50, he became eligible for the PBA Senior Tour this year as well - and won the first Senior Tour event he entered on his way to becoming PBA Senior Tour "Rookie" of the Year. Walter Ray is not only still active on both the PBA Tour and PBA Senior Tour, but a leading threat in every event he enters. P.S. - his nickname is "Deadeye."

    jason brady

    Posted by jason brady September 22, 2010 08:28am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    Rickson Gracie. Possibly best, and most dominant athlete ever. If you are not familiar, look him up.

    tyler owens

    Posted by tyler owens September 22, 2010 09:43am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    Chris nice article but,

    As you well know Americans don't give surfing the respect it deserves. They also don't give soccer the respect it deserves. There are a small handful of players that can compare to Slaters dominance.

    Pele-
    Career lasted 21 years and he scored 1124 goals in 1184 games. Thats like a pro baseball player batting above 900 and hitting nothing but homers. He is still the youngest player ever to win a world cup. Something he accomplished 3 times. Keep in mind that this past world cup final was spain v holland. Spain won and attained their first and only cup while Holland has yet to win one. He was the Brazilian leagues leading scorer 11 times between 1957 and 1973. In his career he won 32 team trophies and to many individual trophies to count.

    Ryan Giggs-
    Still playing for the worlds largest sports franchise (23 years and running). In 92 and 93 he was voted best young player in the EPL. EPL= English Premier League a league experts refer to as the best in the in world by far. Last year 2009 he was voted the overall best player in the league. WOW at the age of 35. He has won the league title 11 times, FA cup 4 times, and champions league 2 times.

    timothy dunne

    Posted by timothy dunne September 22, 2010 10:01am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    First off Congrats to Slater. What a feat. In answering your original question I will show my bias toward track and field. Although not mainstream in the US (like our Football and Basketball), it probably ranks 1st or 2nd in the world for total participation (which I'm guessing Surfing probably ranks very low). I'll turn first to the "Olympian of the Century" (the Olympics are still one of, if not the most prestigious sporting events ever) - Carl Lewis. Lewis dominated sprinting and long jumping from about the time he came on the world scene in 1979 until his triumphant finale in the 1996 Olympic games. Therefore he dominated his extremely popular (on a world level) for two decades. Next I will proffer the one Haile Gebrselassie. Many in the US won't recognize this name (as we in non-mainstream sports are accustom), but speak his name in many other nations and they immediately know. While Disney did make a movie after him, he is still not "mainstream." He has dominated distance running since 1992 setting national and world records at many distances including his current event of the marathon (run by millions of people a year). To stray from track and field, I don't think anyone has mentioned Tony Hawk. One could argue his name. One issue with Hawk, and therefore Slater is the subjective nature of their titles. When so much subjectivity contributes to the outcome, it is difficult to argue "the best of all time." I can't imagine judges not being in awe when they see the name Slater, and therefore award him for his reputation. This said, what he has accomplished is still incredible! Yay for non-mainstream sports! Wish his surfing competitions would be shown instead of day-old reruns of sub-par football games.

    timothy dunne

    Posted by timothy dunne September 22, 2010 10:02am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    First off Congrats to Slater. What a feat. In answering your original question I will show my bias toward track and field. Although not mainstream in the US (like our Football and Basketball), it probably ranks 1st or 2nd in the world for total participation (which I'm guessing Surfing probably ranks very low). I'll turn first to the "Olympian of the Century" (the Olympics are still one of, if not the most prestigious sporting events ever) - Carl Lewis. Lewis dominated sprinting and long jumping from about the time he came on the world scene in 1979 until his triumphant finale in the 1996 Olympic games. Therefore he dominated his extremely popular (on a world level) for two decades. Next I will proffer the one Haile Gebrselassie. Many in the US won't recognize this name (as we in non-mainstream sports are accustom), but speak his name in many other nations and they immediately know. While Disney did make a movie after him, he is still not "mainstream." He has dominated distance running since 1992 setting national and world records at many distances including his current event of the marathon (run by millions of people a year). To stray from track and field, I don't think anyone has mentioned Tony Hawk. One could argue his name. One issue with Hawk, and therefore Slater is the subjective nature of their titles. When so much subjectivity contributes to the outcome, it is difficult to argue "the best of all time." I can't imagine judges not being in awe when they see the name Slater, and therefore award him for his reputation. This said, what he has accomplished is still incredible! Yay for non-mainstream sports! Wish his surfing competitions would be shown instead of day-old reruns of sub-par football games.

    rl418

    Posted by rl418 September 22, 2010 08:47pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

    Wow! Do you think Chris Mauro has ever had this many comments or this kind of reaction to anything he has ever written? He stirred up a hornet's nest. Especially when they posted it on the front page of Yahoo. I love it! The arguments are insane and touched upon so many areas of surfing, sports, & athletes. Is surfing a real sport? Who is the greatest athlete? Is Kelly actually the best surfer? Could Kelly take a hit from Ray Lewis? Could Ray Lewis drop in at Pipe? "Could Kelly Slater be the best athlete ever?" The question had to be asked, but I wonder if he expected this kind of reaction. Way to go Chris!

    mike bowman

    Posted by mike bowman September 22, 2010 11:13pm PDTReply | Report Abuse

    scoober1989, as someone who has played american football, baseball, real football (soccer to you) and tennis in HS, College, and higher levels Semipro American FB and BB, I can say without a doubt you my friend are an idiot! While american football is rough, it takes a far backseat in tallent to many other sports. Hockey players are the most talented, and most hard hitting athletes in sports, and they do it on ICE in skates. Secondly I have been surfing since I was 7, surfing which is a sport is one of the hardest things you can do on earth. It requires you to be in great physical and mental shape to do it well. I have also competed in this realm as a child and as an adult. You really dont deserve a responce on here, but who gives a crap about hard hitters in the NFL, Everyone hits hard in the NFL, not just the 2 your blowing. Get a life. The NFL (national fuckup league) cant hold a candle to surfing ( which is enjoyed worldwide). College football is much better anyway. Go Gators!!!!! Go Slates!!!! The best athlete in the world nine time WC! Hell yeah its about time someone said it.

    james taylor

    Posted by james taylor September 23, 2010 02:28am PDTReply | Report Abuse

    First of all surfing isn't a sport its a hobby, You just get high and be a slacker and love the beach and go surfing. You dont even have a job, Now some one comes along and call it a sport just like bowling, and nascar. You people kill me with this crap. A sport is something you really have to train for and you compete against other people all over not just on the beaches or driving round a left turn. Come on now lets stop the madness. How be we call sleeping a sport. Yes there is bob he's in along nap now look at him snore, No wait jesse got slob coming out his mouth and look at the drool. but dont forget about fat albert he sounds like a bear in hybernation. wo wo wo down the last hour nothing can wake them up and the winner is stupido. he the champ of his sport, He been winning for 33years dammit he's the best. Now with that said MJ is a champ. gretzkie is a champ,Dan marino, even OJ. This is a loser sports writer trying to get props for a story. dont call it a sport you geek. its a hobby what people do on vaction. No sweat no nothing. You want it to be sport cut there legs or soak them in blood and let them surf pass the sharks then see who survives and thats you champ. lmao get some where and be somebody with this nonsense.

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