Reply by dmaines January 14, 2011 03:30pm PSTReport Abuse

they windsurf there often to but its pretty dangerous

Reply by dancer dana winnemoeller January 14, 2011 05:05pm PSTReport Abuse

i want to do that that looks sick and cool and pluse I never gone paddle boarding in my life that would be fun

Reply by anthony borges January 14, 2011 04:00pm PSTReport Abuse

Every year people walk on the mud flats at low tide. The mud is very deep and you easily get stuck. The tide comes in very fast. People are drowned. If your stuck in the mud close enough to shore the FD will wash the mud away from you with a hose.

Reply by geoff van horn January 14, 2011 06:54pm PSTReport Abuse

The mud is deep. And slick, but not the quicksand like stuff people think it is. Every year i WALK to Fire island. I still haven't been eaten by the evil mud.

Reply by trinityschilo January 15, 2011 06:57am PSTReport Abuse

WARNING!
If you do try this make sure you check the Tide Tables. FREE Tide Table Books are available at ANY Sporting Goods Store or Grocery Store. People HAVE died on those flats because they got stuck in that Mud and Can't get out before the Tide comes in and covers them.

Reply by hellomspolly January 15, 2011 06:43pm PSTReport Abuse

There is a tidal bore just North of Maine in Canada. Yes, you can get stuck if you think your going for a walk very far on the flats before the tide rushes in.

Reply by hellomspolly January 15, 2011 06:43pm PSTReport Abuse

There is a tidal bore just North of Maine in Canada. Yes, you can get stuck if you think your going for a walk very far on the flats before the tide rushes in.

Reply by netw3rker January 15, 2011 08:44pm PSTReport Abuse

"if your stuck in the mud"
"if you think your going to walk.."

good lord people, its "your're" not "your".

Reply by trinityschilo January 15, 2011 09:25pm PSTReport Abuse

Thank you for the correction netw3rker it's greatly appreciated but may I make a suggestion....
"your're" is not correct either it should have been "you're" . Gigggles.....your just too cute! We all got the point though......walking on the flats is dangerous in that one may get stuck in the Mud and drown when the tides comes in.

Reply by trinityschilo January 15, 2011 09:29pm PSTReport Abuse

To the 3 that "Surfed" Turnagain arm in the Dead of Alaska's Winter for 5 miles is one helluva feat to be sure! Hats off to all those that made this happen!

Reply by yaya568 January 16, 2011 09:20am PSTReport Abuse

Netw3rker.... I am guessing you meant "you're". I wouldn't be so quick to try and correct others if I were you.

Reply by trinityschilo January 16, 2011 09:30am PSTReport Abuse

Typo's I'm sure.

Reply by yaya568 January 16, 2011 09:31am PSTReport Abuse

I hope so.. because that was just sad lol

Reply by idunnowhatimtalkingabout January 16, 2011 10:06am PSTReport Abuse

@netw3rker

"good lord people, its "your're" not "your".

Really? This is your idea of correcting English? Go back to school.

Reply by philip grant January 16, 2011 10:08am PSTReport Abuse

it's real nice how netw3rker is correcting grammar with misspellings...try "you're." lol

Reply by trinityschilo January 16, 2011 11:08am PSTReport Abuse

Ok y'all he's 13.....give him a break! I see it as a nice catch really as it shows that he has taken notes in School and wasn't skipping classes or hanging with the wrong crowd who doesn't give a Rats Ass about the English Language. Netw3rker.....baby.your doing ok there's just one little thing....ALWAYS check what you wrote one more time before you send it to catch any errors, and of course don't be so harsh on those that as humans make the same mistakes the rest of us has in the past or will do in the future. It's all about learning and improvement no matter what age. HUGZZZZ

Reply by trinityschilo January 16, 2011 11:11am PSTReport Abuse

One more thing.....It's not all about what you say it's all about how it's said AND when it's said. It' s always good to take other people's feelings into consideration . If they are offended then your words fall on deaf ears and no lesson has been learned and your time has been wasted. Does any of this make sense?

Reply by idunnowhatimtalkingabout January 16, 2011 12:25pm PSTReport Abuse

@trinityschilo,

It shows what?!?! It actually shows nothing of the sort. He noticed that you used a word incorrectly and decided to admonish you. On the web, most people will go with fighting fire with fire. Nobody even pointed out all the mistakes in his "sentence" like using "its" instead of "it's," or forgetting to capitalize the first letter of a sentence, or not using commas where they need to be. The funniest part of all of this is that you recommend he check his writing "one more time," but fail to do so yourself. Generally, when you are trying to teach someone something, it's best if you follow the same rules that you are suggesting for them. Does any of this make sense?

Reply by trinityschilo January 16, 2011 01:37pm PSTReport Abuse

It certainly does make sense and thank you for pointing out that I too should follow the same rules! I stand corrected, but if you were all up on it yourself you would have known it was not my blog he was correcting. A minor oversight that isn't important however.

The main point of my original Blog to begin with was to give Warning to those that are not aware of the danger in walking on Turnagain Arm's Mud flats. We all make mistakes whether it be here on this blog or texting elsewhere but who am I to judge.....English obviously was not my major.

Learning English as a second language is tough in itself so I don't think I am doing so bad. I am happy to see that our young people are on top of the English Language, and the proper usage of it as many would argue is being lost in all the slang that is synonymous to any language.

Hats off to you both for seeing the mistakes, and taking the time to help keeping the English Language preserved!

Reply by idunnowhatimtalkingabout January 16, 2011 03:08pm PSTReport Abuse

As I pointed out, there is no evidence other than an easily manipulated profile to show the age of the poster. Assuming he really is 13, you can assume that he was NOT paying attention, as evidenced by all the errors in his own post, just as easily as you can assume that he WAS paying attention, evidenced by noticing one error in another person's post. The only fact that you can be sure of is that he made more errors in his short sentence than the original poster made in a paragraph. I felt he was admonishing the original poster in quite a rude way. I tried to poke fun at him to shut him up. I couldn't care less if he learned anything. When it comes to bullies, I generally take the side of the bullied, not the bully.

Congratulations on writing English as well as you do.

Reply by trinityschilo January 16, 2011 04:16pm PSTReport Abuse

Well said! :)

Reply by deniserick maniswashington January 17, 2011 08:19pm PSTReport Abuse

Hey I thought this was about, how do you say it " RAD" surfing.

Reply by cammahon January 14, 2011 04:21pm PSTReport Abuse

Either it's brian ingram's way or the highway. Of course the highway just happens to be everybody else's collective way so it's not really a big loss.

Reply by fgrantlipscomb January 14, 2011 05:04pm PSTReport Abuse

different strokes brian.. we surf, we ride. we have fun, we laugh and encourage each other. and the paddle aspect is much better for working your core muscles than belly paddling. its much closer to true original Polynesian wave riding than short boards. i know. i ride all types of boards. lighten up.

Reply by john sterling January 15, 2011 12:04am PSTReport Abuse

Maybe Brian was making an attempt at sarcastic humor ?

Reply by jeffhood January 15, 2011 06:33am PSTReport Abuse

SUP is taking over

Reply by jeffhood January 15, 2011 06:36am PSTReport Abuse

There is room for all dude.... Don't be a lame d**k

Reply by derekk2407 January 15, 2011 11:08am PSTReport Abuse

A true Waterman embraces ALL aspects of the Ocean. Here in Hawaii, most respect goes to the most accomplished of Watermen. If you can Master one that's Great. If you can Master many, that's Awesome!

Reply by brian ingram January 15, 2011 07:42pm PSTReport Abuse

to jeffhood its hard enough fighting for waves with all the other guys out there today i probably had 300+ guys surfing the same spot as me today and when u have one guy out there already standing up and with a paddle it makes it imposibly hard to compete for waves

Reply by north rope January 16, 2011 07:49am PSTReport Abuse

my beach my wave comes to mind

Reply by danecurren January 17, 2011 07:38pm PSTReport Abuse

SUP'ing is lame. We don't let them surf at Swamis. You need to patrol your break. If you want to go and SUP a lake - fine. Stay out of the line up. No place for SUP's in the lineup. Longboarders are bad enough - SUP'ers are worse. If you're a beginner we'll give you a break on a longboard but SUP's didn't exist prior to Laird, at least weren't mainstream, and they don't need to exist in the lineup today. It allows a barney to get out in the lineup, perhaps from Arkansas, who doesn't know anything about surfing, didn't put the time in to learn, has no respect, and they need to be kept in check.

Reply by brian ingram January 19, 2011 09:21am PSTReport Abuse

yay finaly someone who is an actual surfer!!

Reply by dmaines January 14, 2011 03:33pm PSTReport Abuse

orcas don't come up the inlet but belugas do and that would be the least of their worries.

Reply by geoff van horn January 14, 2011 06:52pm PSTReport Abuse

I saw a sea lion once. Must have followed the belugas up. He was around mile 116.

Reply by dmaines January 14, 2011 03:22pm PSTReport Abuse

that's why you wear a dry suit

Reply by thimesnv January 16, 2011 07:26am PSTReport Abuse

???ummm, I got a D in Chemistry, but I did learn that minus 10 degee water = ice.

Reply by idunnowhatimtalkingabout January 16, 2011 02:29pm PSTReport Abuse

Actually, water can remain unfrozen well below the average freezing point. 0º being the normal point where freezing begins, water can get as cold as -40º without freezing or even -70º under high pressure.

Reply by captainsam April 4, 2011 06:57pm PDTReport Abuse

The water is actually about 33-5 degrees F... cold enough to diaable you in about 15 minutes.

Reply by patrick boyce January 23, 2011 08:57pm PSTReport Abuse

lol FLOWRIDER!!!, are you nicks bro?

Reply by gwen davis January 14, 2011 03:19pm PSTReport Abuse

way cool vid, but not cool to chop down other for doing what they enjoy.

Reply by dani maxon January 14, 2011 04:52pm PSTReport Abuse

to each his own. surfing has lost its image. it's cutthroat. there is no pride or respect in cutthroat. these kids need to learn that.

Reply by gypsywonder January 14, 2011 04:58pm PSTReport Abuse

I respect & admire the "actual" surfers but Im in Hawaii now & its a good thing I can do when my hubbie is deployed I have 2 lil ones that ride the board with MaMa ... we r looking to Alaska next ... dont hate the Ocean is big enough for us all Mahalo <3 Namaste

Reply by fgrantlipscomb January 14, 2011 05:12pm PSTReport Abuse

yes they are considered actual surfers tyrone. by the vast majority of serious watermen. dont judge what and who you dont know

Reply by slander_anonymously January 14, 2011 05:34pm PSTReport Abuse

Killer death wave like Pipeline? What are you talking about dude? Pipeline's reef produces barrels. You get bigger waves at Sunset. You talk out your a$$. Perhaps you need to actually experience these places rather than talk about videos you see. Plus "Jaws" produces "death" waves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdLnri3Jvs0&feature=channel

Reply by michael jarman January 14, 2011 08:38pm PSTReport Abuse

Ha Tyrone you don't know what you are talking about. Surfers don't consider SUP as surfers or do you mean you. I guess you should inform the likes of Laird Hamilton he is no longer a surfer cause he SUPs. Oh by the way heas has SUP at Teahupoo as well.

Reply by zachary mars January 14, 2011 11:52pm PSTReport Abuse

wow man, weak post. i live in MT. I surf river breaks and backwater. I started in Santa Cruz, CA. just cause I'm in the mid-west, or "someone" is using a paddle, surfing is soul, and yours will die if you don't respect it. You can start by respecting others first, then maybe your soul can gain some respect of its own.
Your comments, make other surfers embarrassed to have that common association with you.

Reply by holly horn January 15, 2011 02:15am PSTReport Abuse

The "actual surfers" that you are referring to have lost the soul of surfing, the true meaning. We initially went out there to connect with the ocean, to separate ourselves from the anger, from the stress of the world. As I've watched the groms grow older, I've seen that some still hold this soulful attitude, but the "actual surfers" that you speak of don't seem to see the bigger picture. Surfing for them isn't about happiness, or love, it's about aggression, and dominance. They have become that which surfing meant to escape... no longer are we different creatures when out on our surfboards, we are merely extensions of the land, of the traffic on the roads, and the disconnect in peoples hearts. If someone can find a place to escape to, escape these so called "actual surfers", and ride a wave for 5 miles (!), then firstly, whom are you to judge, but finally, I imagine they would care less either way as to your opinion.

Reply by swiz alps January 15, 2011 03:49am PSTReport Abuse

so agree with you there Holly horn and others, but i must comment that this yes makes me realize how big of a nerd i am but i was just reminded of jedi vs sith from your words :)
love surfing and snowboarding hope to improve on my skills in both but for me its all about the fun with friends and the joy of accomplishment and laughter when we fall. no matter what wave or hill you ride on its all about the joy and peace i feel in myself and in my friends.

Reply by jeffhood January 15, 2011 06:34am PSTReport Abuse

Tyrone is a dropout.....ignore him

Reply by derekk2407 January 15, 2011 11:11am PSTReport Abuse

Guaranteed KOOK! Nuff said.

Reply by brian ingram January 15, 2011 07:48pm PSTReport Abuse

i agree with tyrone. sup is ok if they do it away from shortboarders witht the longboarders

Reply by michael john desanta January 15, 2011 09:49pm PSTReport Abuse

sub boardering is a HUGE work out,

Reply by brian ingram January 15, 2011 10:38pm PSTReport Abuse

michael if you do it for the workout go paddle around the harbor and let me enjoy the waves

Reply by holly horn January 16, 2011 12:48am PSTReport Abuse

Definitely see the Jedi comparison now... thanks. :) I also understand the frustration on your part Brian, I've been there, paddling into a wave, when someone with a bigger board, or a kayak even, has caught it from much further out, and according to the rules of the water, it's their wave. Often times I've found that if you're cool to people like that, they'll pull ahead, and let you go behind them, giving you plenty of room, or other times, they'll kick completely off. Of course, that means you gotta be willing to take off pretty deep in, and you have to be able to maneuver around if something happens. The good thing this article is pointing out, is that these guys aren't out there at your local break taking waves that you could've caught on your shortboard. They're up in Alaska, catching waves that they could only stay with by doing either this, or by using a boat or jet ski to pull them back in if the waves back off.

Reply by danecurren January 17, 2011 07:44pm PSTReport Abuse

SUP'ing is not surfing. It's a way for people who don't know how to surf to get out in the lineup - in general. So what Laird SUP's. If Laird was a pillow biter would "you" become a pillow biter because he's doing it? Laird would get waxed by a 12 year old at Trestles so he found other ways to define himself. Dorian and Kelly smoke Laird in big waves. When was the last time you saw Laird actually "SURF?" I would say probably the 80's. I saw him at Hookipa on some 12 foot longboard but he doesn't impress me. I guess there's some German guy also who can't even stand up on a board but has been towed in at Jaws? 2 different sports. The only reason I would own an SUP would be to run into other SUP'ers.

Reply by dani maxon January 14, 2011 04:59pm PSTReport Abuse

both forms of surfing are incredible. unfortunately, to base any idea of it off the postings here wouldn't help. it is a sport that is all you; you are responsible for your outcome. the standup paddle boards are a great form to enjoy, they're more relaxed and do require some skill, contrary to thoughts posted here. short boards require a lot more skill and timing, and can give quite the rush. the ride is very short though, and so practice makes perfect. surfing is a sport that is both beautiful, and steeped in history. it makes me sad that some are projecting such poor images about it, destroying that history for others to see. the history wasn't about this or that isn't good or bad. get yourself an instructor and spend a weekend morning on the beach sometime. it's well worth it, just to try if nothing else.

Reply by tyrone cornelius January 14, 2011 03:36pm PSTReport Abuse

Regardless of how lame these people are, the glacial till is dangerous. Saw a show where a couple on a quad rode across a huge mud flat at low tide. Quad got stuck, husband got off to push it and got stuck up to his knees. Slooowly the tide came up and drowned him. Wife couldn't do anything. Bad way to go. Knowing for hours that you are going to drown.

Reply by jo anne guthrie January 14, 2011 04:15pm PSTReport Abuse

The first time we went to Girdwood, we were warned about the 'mud'. We saw a boat stuck in it once. The tide had gone out and the boat was about half sunk in the stuff. We were told that a large number of people drown each year because they get stuck and can't get out. I bet us 'foreigners' heed the warning much more than the locals. It is so beautiful there and to have 'seen' it would have been awesome, but no way would I have gotten off in it.

Reply by kerri brown minor January 15, 2011 08:42pm PSTReport Abuse

back in by grandma's day, (1930-ish), she went out in new unwashed men's levis with a big pillowcase to catch air in to bodysurf on and shrink their levi's to be form-fitting, especially girls. (before pre-shrunk, and nobody could afford a board) nobody ever ragged on her or her friends :) I agree, the most fun = the best surfer

Reply by philip grant January 16, 2011 10:37am PSTReport Abuse

@ kerri...so that's how it started. tell your gramma thanks