Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:30am PDTReport Abuse

WHAT? make sense of that...

Reply by faze iii September 10, 2010 03:50am PDTReport Abuse

Because in the past obstacles of that size were only conquered by snowboards, not skateboards.

Reply by syed kamal September 10, 2010 05:01am PDTReport Abuse

ohhh

Reply by dingerwa September 10, 2010 03:14pm PDTReport Abuse

I am an Air Force and single at present .I need a woman who can love me back ..I also uploaded my hot photos on militaryloves.com under the name of hoho212..It's the largest and best club for seeking Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Police Force, and the admirers of those who wear the uniform.I just hope you don't mind me being a soldier ...Please Check it out!I'm serious.

Reply by nathanfusmc September 9, 2010 11:49pm PDTReport Abuse

Not most of his adult life..but most of his entire life!

Reply by jmw97 September 10, 2010 04:45pm PDTReport Abuse

This guy is very wealthy because of his Mega-Ramp. Far richer than any of you could ever imagine to be. He enjoys doing it as well. We do damage to ourselves with any type of work, but I would rather take home 6-7 million a year riding a skateboard versus a heart attack as an executive watching his stock tank

Reply by travis krason September 9, 2010 09:10pm PDTReport Abuse

I agree Hawk did this same trick but did not need a Mega Ramp to do it, I think people have forgot that

Reply by richard poillucci September 10, 2010 05:31am PDTReport Abuse

Yeah I was thinking that when isaw the news article I was like "wasnt this trick already performed by tony HawK"

Reply by richard poillucci September 10, 2010 05:33am PDTReport Abuse

Kudos to him for performing this trick though.

Reply by el shizz September 10, 2010 06:02am PDTReport Abuse

no one's ever done a switch 900, so this is in fact completely unlike anything done before. Reading comprehension, u can't has it.

Reply by romil reyes September 10, 2010 03:52pm PDTReport Abuse

it wasnt switch, it was fakie

Reply by chuck stephens September 9, 2010 05:49pm PDTReport Abuse

Wow. You are just so bitchin. I can't tell you how glad I am that you told us how good you are. Were. Whatever.

Reply by tanner hart September 9, 2010 06:09pm PDTReport Abuse

It doesn't matter how many spins you do as long as you have style, and this has way more style than any old school trick ever did, and thats why its old school

Reply by greggmsut September 9, 2010 07:26pm PDTReport Abuse

I read my own post through several times and funny thing is.....I couldn't find anywhere in it that said how "bitchin" I was/were/whatever. I was your garden variety skater. I was merely pointing out how much more interesting skating was to watch then as opposed to now. But thanks for trying to make a point Chuck. You just failed at it.

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:08am PDTReport Abuse

Name an "old Schooler" who has landed a 900 degree on a mega ramp! good luck....

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:24am PDTReport Abuse

Oh...Bob B. finger flipped and 8 foot quarter pipes are what this generation did at 15! They are just better than People back then used to be.

Reply by jessica bever September 10, 2010 09:07am PDTReport Abuse

without the "old schoolers" to start the tricks and the sport, ya'll would have NOTHING!!! bet if you asked any of the best skaters those "old schoolers" are their heroes!!! just like surfing.... newer tricks these days bt the old guys had style like no other and tey paved the way for all the little groms that became the pros of today. have respect for your elders!

Reply by yoskate September 10, 2010 10:08am PDTReport Abuse

I'm 18 and I don't mind old school skating, I actually enjoy watching it a lot. I actually just re-watched animal chin last night. I think some people like it more because it is easier to relate to, it's just guys going out and skating the streets. Today's skating is so technically advanced that it's hard to even enjoy what these guys are doing, it's not that they don't have talent it's just that some have too much talent. I can appreciate all kinds of skating though and it seems the better I get ( not that I'm that good) the more I can relate to more stuff and the more I can enjoy it.

Reply by magmul September 10, 2010 11:40am PDTReport Abuse

I agree greggmsutt - I'm a bit younger than you and back then there was a much more exploratory / inventive side to riding... In 1978 thru 1983 for instance the stuff going on in pools was amazing and guys made the cover of skateboarder mag for getting 2 feet of air... then, came the 1/2 pipes and the air generation was born. I was fortunate to have been born in era that has seen this all develop over time. I can appreciate the technical difficulty of something like this but personally it bores me. How many kids today can do a hand stand on a stick or a 10 rotation daffy for instance. Not that something like that is an awesome trick but younger guys should realize there is more to skating than slamming a ramp at 40 mph and spinning as many times as they can before landing.

Reply by jo mamm September 10, 2010 01:27pm PDTReport Abuse

it's always funny to hear people who don't even skateboard and who "used to skateboard"run their mouths about something they obviously know nothing about. You guys will never get it.

Reply by magmul September 10, 2010 05:41pm PDTReport Abuse

PLEASE enlighten us joe mamma... What you don't get is that those of us who "used to skate" back when it wasn't as popular as it is today paved the way for X-Games and all that crap. We skated before Vans and Quicksilver and G&S and Maui Jim and during the time frame I talked about the sport evolved at a lightening pace. Every week someone was upping the ante a little bit, building a bigger ramp, getting more air, etc. Now some guy rehashing a Tony Hawk trick is big news... and furthermore, how does this = a 900? If the guy "skated up the wall backward -- ultimately lifting 40 feet above ground as he spun the 900 -- and landed backward too." Thats either a 720 or a 1080...

Reply by yoskate September 10, 2010 07:40pm PDTReport Abuse

"how does this = a 900? If the guy "skated up the wall backward -- ultimately lifting 40 feet above ground as he spun the 900 -- and landed backward too." Thats either a 720 or a 1080..."

I'll assume that you posted that, re-read it, thought about it for a few mins, and then felt stupid.
If that's not the case I have lost hope in humanity when a guy older than vans can't solve simple problems haha.

Reply by jo mamm September 11, 2010 02:10pm PDTReport Abuse

Magmul- Let me enlighten you. You talk of your old-school days before skateboarding was popular and people were upping the ante with bigger air harder ticks etc.. How can you claim this as a re-hash of an old Tony Hawk trick. The only thing they have in common is the degrees of rotation. Bob did it backwards for one (fakie to fakie), did it with a different grab than Hawk, he caught more air than Hawk, and he did it on a ramp that was twice the size. If you can't see the difficulty there you simply don't have a clue about skateboarding. Aside from that, you can't even count the rotations with the video right in front of your face! (it's ok, you are not the only one who can't count basic rotations here) It seems to me that "back in the day" you were a poser at best. There must be a good reason you don't still skate today (assuming you ever really did) - you would get laughed out of the scene in a heartbeat. You will obviously never get it. I can't tell if you are here trolling for an argument here or if you are really as clueless as your comments make you out to be.

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:09am PDTReport Abuse

a mega ramp followed by a 900 in a wheel chair...what are you trying to compare to.

Reply by ralph moore September 10, 2010 05:07am PDTReport Abuse

who gives a crap if he can do it in a wheelchair?Can you walk down the street?That was mean right?Well quit trying to take away from what someone else does,and I will quit trying to take away from what YOU do

Reply by brana September 10, 2010 05:59am PDTReport Abuse

i don't think you guys got what he was saying...at all. stop raging you angsty teenagers

Reply by biswalt September 10, 2010 07:33am PDTReport Abuse

Okay so I'm an uber-dork and I've got a force calculating spread sheet. Here are some of the variables I used and how I calculated them.

Time to land trick = 0.14 seconds. From the time a skate boarder hits any part of the skate board until the knees start flexing up (*calculated by watching youtube clips and timing them, so I would consider this roughly accurate as opposed to mathematically sound).

Time to bail trick = 0.53 seconds. Average time from watching youtube clips that it takes from one body part to hit until the body starts recoiling from the impact.

Average freefall time = 0.9 seconds. This is both my observed and mathematically drop for an average large stair set (15-20 roughly).

When I plug those numbers into my calculator I get an impact of about 1,118 lbs-force on a successful landing and about 295 lbs-force for a crash for a 174 lbs skater. (because crashes allow the body to impact over a longer time than a landing (however they still suck because obviously you're usually in a worse position on a crash). Knee cartiliage issues and disc compression are quite common with repeated landings like that. Not to mention all sorts of various footproblems especially significantly high numbers of stress fractures in the small bones of the foot. I work in a shoe store and I've seen enough former skaters to know that it's very hard on the knees and the small bones of the feet especially and all my friends who used to be skaters all have back problems.

Reply by magmul September 10, 2010 11:43am PDTReport Abuse

you're not taking into account that its not a flat landing - thats why ramps curve.

Reply by magmul September 10, 2010 06:49pm PDTReport Abuse

biswalt - to clarify my prior post about the ramps curve. You're calculating for a straight vert drop, which the body is doing - but the impact isnt vertical. The impact is in the horizontal. You re-connect with the ramp on its vertical face and the curve of the ramp gradually transitions the force of the fall during the drop.

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:19am PDTReport Abuse

NO

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:32am PDTReport Abuse

That was on a vert....half pipe..... plus two drops.... not the same...

Reply by brian sapp September 9, 2010 08:53pm PDTReport Abuse

you are right 720 all the way.

Reply by travis krason September 9, 2010 09:11pm PDTReport Abuse

Hawk did not need a mega ramp either

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:18am PDTReport Abuse

Tony Hawk was on a vert not a mega! 20 mph makes a difference. THE BOARD ROTATED 900 DEGREES. All of these comments must be pre-grad school.

Reply by jo mamm September 10, 2010 01:34pm PDTReport Abuse

Sounds like math is pretty hard for some people. Its a Fakie to fakie 900. It's never been done until now. Go put on your rollerblades and visualize it.

Reply by magmul September 10, 2010 06:29pm PDTReport Abuse

joe mamma - 900 divided by 360 = 2.5
If you're walking down the street and turn around 2.5 times my arithmetic says your facing the other way afterwards...

Reply by jo mamm September 11, 2010 01:53pm PDTReport Abuse

magmul, now try applying your math to skateboarding on a vert ramp. Bob was not walking down the street when he did his fakie to fakie 900. He was going up one side of a ramp, spinning, and heading back down the ramp (in the opposite direction that he came) Hawk did the 900 facing forward on the way up the ramp and landing forward on the way back down the ramp. It is not that complicated. You could try actually watching the video and counting if you still don't get it.

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:14am PDTReport Abuse

hahahahahaha.

Reply by phasha moshoana d September 10, 2010 07:06am PDTReport Abuse

its 360 twice n 180 as he lands!

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:14am PDTReport Abuse

Another math waiver. America's school system is scary listening to these replies

Reply by bruce mcnamara September 10, 2010 02:53am PDTReport Abuse

Facing the camera going into the jump, two complete rotations, facing away coming out. Let's see, that's 360+360+180 = 900. Right?

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:13am PDTReport Abuse

? I'm waiting to see on youtube. Your dog flying a 70 foot gap the stabalizing into a 900 degree board rotation.... I'll pay for that

Reply by fueler September 10, 2010 05:41am PDTReport Abuse

Ok, you want better math? His body rotated 820 degrees- He was facing up the ramp as his feet switched the board the remaining 180 degree it needed- by then his shoulders had turned perpendicular with the lip and he then turned his head to face down ramp. Again- Hawk did not do it that way. They wouldn't call it a 900 if Mira landed his bike backwards, would they?

Reply by bodey September 10, 2010 04:16am PDTReport Abuse

So true. That is one of the best things about the X-Games -- a true example of sportsmanship in action.

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:11am PDTReport Abuse

The first decent analogy of this trick yet!

Reply by adam shinkle September 10, 2010 04:26am PDTReport Abuse

Agreed....This was a qualified 900, I wouldn't under value the fact it was done on a Mega though. Even though you get higher in the air you have to take alot more into account such as wind and such. Also when you push away from the ramp to make sure you go straight up instead of forward through end you have farther to come down to the ramp and have to have your feet positioned more correctly on the board to stick the landing. That is why when you see guys doing tricks on the Mega during events such as the X-games you see alot more of them bail early on a trick. That way they have a few moments longer to brace themselves for the long fail ahead of them. Its also why you heard that alot of guys were complaining about the mega being outside during the last X-Games. The breeze was strong enough to push these guys around or at least they felt it was during the best trick comp and was holding them back.

All future Mega events at X-Games will be indoors if they want the best riders to participate in the event because too many have said they won't do it unless its indoors due to the increased safety concerns they have.

And before someone gets self-righteous saying that original boarders didn't have indoor parks/ramps etc. Remember that the pioneers of the sport also didn't have 25' tall vert ramps either. Their innovations in the sport lead to the developments of 25' ramps just so the sport could push the envelope, not take away from what they did.

The sport will continue to progress with innovations like this until we reach the limitations of the human body.

Reply by fueler September 10, 2010 05:45am PDTReport Abuse

Dropknee makes perfectly good sense, but, I don't know if X-Game judges would call that a true 900 or not? Any judges on here?

Reply by meatspinner September 12, 2010 08:00pm PDTReport Abuse

Why would they not call it a 900?

Reply by nathanfusmc September 10, 2010 12:05am PDTReport Abuse

It was 2 1/2 rotations...join the educated world of today and count.

Reply by mky kem September 10, 2010 10:33am PDTReport Abuse

ya i here ya on that